Has anyone made randomness work for them.

[iggiv]

well, let's stop it right there then. The fact is that your methods never showed any consistent winning so far. And that's about it. I don't wanna talk about your students though i did talk to some of them. If there was something positive to tell about your methods i would be the first to have pleasure doin it.

i am also  not very happy why would u have to come here under different nicknames to argue with Cheese.

anyway, this all looks like waist of time to me.

[crackers]

Fine with me too.  As gizmotron I banned myself. I changed my email to a lost destination then I changed my access login key. I was done with all the attacks. So when I lost my ability to log in it worked. So you want to see my secret perhaps? You think you know it. I have a reason for sharing how to play trends. Even if I teach you you most likely won't have the personal discipline  to exicute the strategy. For that single reason it will be safe to share the secrets.

[TwoCatSam]

crackers

Don't know you; don't know your previous name or names....but...

"For that single reason it will be safe to share the secrets."

I would love to share in your secrets.

TwoCat

[ReDsQuaD]

these are roulette method wars. I can't see this as a desire to insult Gizmo, it is just a long story of Cheese criticizing his methods. Well, I am not taking sides here, but I know that many things Gizmotron tried, failed.

I don't think this is about Gizmo personality.
Yes, sounds harsh. But Gizmo's methods really failed so far. Never showed consisting winning. That's a bitter truth, sorry.

Hmm how can you be so sure? You are sure as hell that Cheese wins. What proof did cheese show you that gizmo didn't?

[iggiv]

u know what i want. I want this forum to be friendly place. No personal attacks. Attack Cheese' ideas as much as u want. But let's not attack personalities (and that's what i am asking again since u came here!). Let's not call names. Let's not put our noses into what other people do out of the forum. Let's see what ideas are brought here and how they are working.
. That's what i did.
i really feel like waist of time in those weird discussions.

we are not in the court here, and i don't wanna talk too much about it. Nuff said.

thanx for understanding.

Period.

[ReDsQuaD]

u know what I want. I want this forum to be friendly place. No personal attacks. Attack Cheese' ideas as much as u want. But let's not attack personalities (and that's what I am asking again since u came here!). Let's not call names. Let's not put our noses into what other people do out of the forum. Let's see what ideas are brought here and how they are working.
. That's what I did.
I really feel like waist of time in those weird discussions.

we are not in the court here, and I don't wanna talk too much about it. Nuff said.

thanx for understanding.

Period.

I asked a simple question, you couldn't answer it.

[iggiv]

read the red line. Gizmo's ideas simply did not work. that's all. Now spare me of anything else.

[crackers]

I would love to share in your secrets.

TwoCat

Sam, it's  me gizmotron. I'm going to teach how to use randomness to attack weaknesses in the game of roulette.  BTW- Spike is cheese. hence cheese & crackers. Some old timers get it.

[ReDsQuaD]

read the red line. Gizmo's ideas simply did not work. that's all. Now spare me of anything else.

Yes i read the red line already and that is not an answer, it's an opinion. I pacificly asked what PROOF cheese has provided that Gizmo hasn't. I do not want to hear your opinion, facts would be nice, like an actual topic, even though i know it does not exist.

[iggiv]

I don't care if u want to hear my opinion or not, I told everybody I (as mod) don't want this forum to become a place of personal attacks to each other, and I don't care what people do or don't outside this forum. Cheese attacked Gizmo's ideas, Cracks (who is Gizmo) attacked Cheese back personally calling him poser and telling about him things what he does out of this forum. That's what I did not like. I explained normally.

now u r not a judge or prosecutor to demand any facts here. And I am not a crime suspect to give them to u.

And this would be already forgotten if not u with your weird ridiculous demands. And  u would have to put up with my opinion on this for obvious reasons. And my opinion is that you start trolling now which is not encouraged in this forum.

[crackers]

well, let's stop it right there then. The fact is that your methods never showed any consistent winning so far. And that's about it. I don't wanna talk about your students though I did talk to some of them. If there was something positive to tell about your methods I would be the first to have pleasure doing.

Now I am curious. I never shared much openly about my (secrets).  I openly discussed sytems that I programmed and tested. To this date all mechanically ordered betting systems have all failed. I shared my work in the interest of discussion. Have you ever heard about gamblers glen? This discussion has been going on for years.

[ReDsQuaD]

I don't care if u want to hear my opinion or not, I told everybody I (as mod) don't want this forum to become a place of personal attacks to each other, and I don't care what people do or don't outside this forum. Cheese attacked Gizmo's ideas, Cracks (who is Gizmo) attacked Cheese back personally calling him poser and telling about him things what he does out of this forum. That's what I did not like. I explained normally.

now u r not a judge or prosecutor to demand any facts here. And I am not a crime suspect to give them to u.

And this would be already forgotten if not u with your weird ridiculous demands. And  u would have to put up with my opinion on this for obvious reasons. And my opinion is that you start trolling now which is not encouraged in this forum.

Yes as I thought. This is the situation. You have stated gizmo is a loser at roulette, and cheese is the biggest winner.

I asked if you could back this up, but you couldn't. It's all I wanted to know, but instead you give me a whole lot of irrelevant information that I did not ask.

[crackers]

WHO STARTED WITH THE OFF FORUM COMMENTS?

LOL! Of course its Gizmo, I knew as soon as he
started using big words to fool everybody. He
always breaks under scrutiny, thats why I was
toying with him. He can never explain what he
means because what he says never means
anything. Its always a baloneyfest.

Back when we were exchanging emails, he'd
send me these long messages that never made
any sense, full of words like 'syntatic' and 'mnemonic'
and when I asked for explanations I'd get back
another page on nonsense. He was gaming me,
so I let him go on and on for the longest time. I
read about 5% of the crap he sent me, if that much.

[iggiv]

Crackers-Gizmo, u worked with your black box, some other stuff here, nothing worked so far.
then u told everybody that u got some winning ideas from Cheese  and u started winning with them. And now u come and tell Cheese that he is only a poser (though before u told in the forums u r using his ideas to win). Too much things was said and it was every time something else. U-turns here and there.

Share your secrets please. Not that I am personally interested since I don't believe in them (I am honest with u, bud), but share them please if u will. For other curious guys.

I am sorry to say I don't really believe that something comes out of it, but if it does I'll be more than happy. After all that is what this forum was created for. Thanx.

Let's not dwell on what happened before, let's see new ideas

[iggiv]

OK people.

we are dwelling on the same stuff fruitlessly. I am gonna lock this topic now.
Crackers if u have new interesting stuff to share please do. Create a new topic with no personalities discussed, only roulette.

Now I will ask Cheese: please criticize only ideas, not personal behaviour. Thanx, folks.

And guys! I did not call anyone a roulette loser or biggest winner!

(i admit  that Cheese words could be too harsh, so i asked him to be nicer)

[iggiv]

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