The Grail of Randomness

[crackers]

It all comes down to a method. It has some basic guidelines. Self control, discipline, and awareness are the key ingredients to this strategy. There are no triggers. There are no progressions.

1. Any lost bet is an indication of a potential change in the conditions.
2. Determine what is currently happening in the trends.
3. Attack the currently occurring condition until it changes.
4. Don't continue placing bets when swarms of first bets lose.
5. Never chase after your losses.

[Bally44]

"determine what is currently happening in the trends" - crackers.
The problem that I am sure most people find here is that the trend is just about over when they hop on board. No one has explained adequately enough how to catch these trends from the beginning. You really only need one win and can profit nicely. You can mostly guarantee at least one win if you have the parameters set right and then don't get silly chasing after a loss.

[crackers]

"determine what is currently happening in the trends" - crackers.
The problem that I am sure most people find here is that the trend is just about over when they hop on board. No one has explained adequately enough how to catch these trends...

All you have to do is ask. Try this. Every 150 spins there are around two to three sleeping dozens. If you wait five sleepers to try them you still have a 63% chance of winning the first bet and a 40% chance of winning the second bet. After that it is all profit. 15% of the time you will profit beyond breaking even on taking the chance. That's long term odds. If you win two in a row then the third win  odds is 25% for all those independent outcomes types.  That will happen 98 times in the next 150 spins. ... but I don't care much about the odds. I just care about the current state of the variance.

[cheese]

Every 150 spins there are around two to three sleeping dozens.

Geez, you must have a lot of time on your hands.
To speed things up, make more dozens than the
three you see by using the streets. You can follow
at least half a dozen 'dozens' and find twice as
many sleepers.

[crackers]

Geez, you must have a lot of time on your hands.
To speed things up, make more dozens than the
three you see by using the streets. You can follow
at least half a dozen 'dozens' and find twice as
many sleepers.

I have 12 sets or dozens, one set of the ten digets, and the three sets of ECs. I can track them all on a single 5/7 inch index card. All of the dozens react with the same similarities and characteristics. The ten digets are the most susceptible  to very powerful win streaks. These groupings are 1 11 21 31, 2 12 22 32, 3 13 23 33, etc...

[Bally44]

Thanks for the advice crackers but I don't like the idea of needing to win three times to make a profit. That looks like an accident waiting to happen IMO. I envisage a winning method hitting on the first spin for a profit which you can either take or go one more looking for a run. Nothing to stop anyone using the JP philosophy of regression here either. You want to keep as much of your cake as possible.

[Bally44]

To elaborate a little further. A lot of study needs to go in to develop parameters which you can trust in. As an example, I played three games or mini games as I like to call them yesterday afternoon. I started betting on spin 7. I won on spin 7 and 8 and lost on spin 9. The betting for the next game started on spin 7 again. I won again on spin 7 and 8 and lost on spin 9. The third game saw me start betting on spin 8. I got lucky in this game because I won on spin 8, 9, 10 and 11 before losing on spin 12. I would have stopped any game if I lost the first bet.
As much as the parameters are pretty solid, I still have to appreciate the nature of randomness and be open to a little bit of flexibility. However if things stray too much, I have the option of not betting. So I guess what I am saying here is that randomness can actually have some pretty constant characteristics. The secret to discovering this IMO is keeping games very short. Remember Murphy's Law.

[crackers]

Thanks for the advice crackers but I don't like the idea of needing to win three times to make a profit.

You can stop on any first bet win and be in profit. You place equal sized bets on the other two dozens/columns etc... respectively. A real sleeping dozen, that's any 12 numbers, sleeps for about 15 spins in a row. I'm saying to attack all real sleeping dozens by betting on the other two that aren't sleeping. There are two very interesting positive progressions that fit this situation too. One of them has a take a little as you go component to it also.  But after two wins, flat betting, there is no risk, if you know what I mean?

[crackers]

Here is a nice form of regression for real sleeper:
10 -- 10  -- 0
15 -- 15  -- 5
20 -- 20   -- 10
25 -- 20   -- 15
30 -- 30   -- 25
35 -- 35   -- 45
30 -- 30   -- 90

Total win equals 190 in seven steps. It pays 100 by step six. So you in profit by the step four win. If you have real guts  you can start several of these staggered after each win. A quality formed sleeper can be a huge prize if you know how to exploit one.

[cheese]

Every 150 spins there are around two to three sleeping dozens.

You track 12 sets of dozens and you only see
two to three sleepers in 150 spins? That can't
be right.

[TwoCatSam]

This is an honest question, not a slam or a dig or anything else............

How does a person define a "sleeping dozen"?

Sam

[crackers]

You track 12 sets of dozens and you only see
two to three sleepers in 150 spins? That can't
be right.

It's correct for one set of three, like the low, middle, and high dozens.

[crackers]

This is an honest question, not a slam or a dig or anything else............

How does a person define a "sleeping dozen"?

Sam

I'll make a personal observation. I think it's any dozen from any set that does not hit for 14 spins or greater than that.  Every once in a while a dozen will sleep up to 30 consecutive spins. You can see them in a chart instantly. If you can't then you have a less than advantageous chart.

[mcmonaco]

This is an honest question, not a slam or a dig or anything else............

How does a person define a "sleeping dozen"?

Sam

When 2 lines/regardless which/don't hit 9 spins.

[TwoCatSam]

Nine spins......

Gotcha!

Thanks....

[TwoCatSam]

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