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Started by crackers, March 30, 2012, 02:11:16 PM

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cheese

Quote from: crackers on March 31, 2012, 05:10:11 PM
It's correct for one set of three, like the low, middle, and high dozens.

Did you figure that out after I pointed to the
fact you can track more than 3 dozens at
once?

crackers

Quote from: cheese on March 31, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
Did you figure that out after I pointed to the
fact you can track more than 3 dozens at
once?

I've been tracking more than three dozens for years. Have you noticed the columns? I've also been tracking another set of three based on their location on the American wheel. Once you start using the inside layout you can make up hundreds of custom sets. Having said that, when it comes to both odds or characteristics, it's all the same.

I get it. You are working on your father roulette skits  again. You like claiming you invented this and that because you want open discussion hijacked . Nobody is interested in who or why any topic originated with you. If anything they are interested in asking questions, giving answers, or getting answers. The topic is characteristics of randomness  and how to exploit them. Why don't you dazzle us all with your fatherly advice.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on April 01, 2012, 12:01:16 AM
You like claiming you invented this

If you think you or I invented making more
dozens up, you're deluded. It was looked
at 200 years ago. I investigated it for 6
months in 2008. Knock yourself out. I
abandoned it because its not feasible. You
should never bet more than the bet returns.
It'll bury you eventually.

crackers

Quote from: cheese on April 01, 2012, 02:51:10 AM
If you think you or I invented making more
dozens up, you're deluded. It was looked
at 200 years ago. I investigated it for 6
months in 2008. Knock yourself out. I
abandoned it because its not feasible. You
should never bet more than the bet returns.
It'll bury you eventually.

Why should anyone listen to an admitted failure? You can't see what I see. You can't do what I can.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on April 01, 2012, 03:36:59 AM
You can't see what I see. You can't do what I can.

Just more blah blah blah from Gizmo. He'll tease
and tease and go away in a huff. Yawn..

crackers

Quote from: cheese on April 01, 2012, 05:18:25 AM
Just more blah blah blah from Gizmo. He'll tease
and tease and go away in a huff. Yawn..

Ok, that's fine Spike (Cheese). You had your little disruption. Now please go somewhere else to make yourself useful.

Getting back to the topic, For many years on these forums I refused to demonstrate or prove my claims. I thought that these methods would be seen as so easy that the casinos would shut things down. The mathboyz had a field day with there almost endless drowning argument to prove it. That's  the difference now. I'm willing to talk about it and prove it. So far I've pointed out that One set of dozens/columns/whatever has a few long sleeping section of 12 about every 150 spins. To prove that will be tedious, but not impossible. This discussion is about focus on one characteristic of randomness. If after all these years people have no interest in this then I'll just write a book and prove it by others interested in it.

crackers

"Everything in the arsenal." That's how I go after these few opportunities. I use other smaller successes to pay for the chances I take with these big opportunities. It's been said hundreds of times before. You must make it a war. It's not a recreation where you throw away some entertainment money.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: crackers on April 01, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
"Everything in the arsenal." That's how I go after these few opportunities. I use other smaller successes to pay for the chances I take with these big opportunities. It's been said hundreds of times before. You must make it a war. It's not a recreation where you throw away some entertainment money.

I dont get what you are trying to accomplish here. Stay away from sleeping dozens.  Usually do not sleep more than 25 spins and once a day you can get betting opportunity but you never know.
All other systems based on betting on single dozens are always doomed to fail because of... the way they hit.

regards

crackers

Many here have made it clear that they have seen or made use of some form of 12 numbers sleeping. I'm  suggesting that the most powerful attack method is to let the house's money ride.

Imagine taking 7 sets of 10 & 10 each. You take off one set for each win. The first set rides one spin. So you take off 30 for that set and that first win. Now you have 6 sets that have all grown to bets of 15 each. So on the next win you take off 45 for the second winner. The remaining 5 sets grow to 22 each. This keeps going until you take the final set at the seventh win. In just seven spins you hammer the casino. You are in profit after three wins. So you need to find a way to at least get three wins in a row that can have a 66% chance of winning on each spin. The best way to get 66% odds is to also target the sleeping zeros. They sleep all the time. Another great feature of randomness in the dozens are the streaks of singles. They tend to come in stretches that last about 12 spins as opposed   to the sleepers at 16.

crackers

Quote from: Robeenhuut on April 01, 2012, 12:13:24 PM
All other systems based on betting on single dozens are always doomed to fail because of... the way they hit.

If you see a sleeping dozen then place equal sized bets on the other two dozens that are not sleeping. While the sleeping condition continues you win. Your bet selection process is based on the coincidental trend. A trend that has no cause for its existence other than being a random coincidence.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: crackers on April 01, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
If you see a sleeping dozen then place equal sized bets on the other two dozens that are not sleeping. While the sleeping condition continues you win. Your bet selection process is based on the coincidental trend. A trend that has no cause for its existence other than being a random coincidence.

Hello Crackers

Could you be more clear in your explanation of your strategy?  Im bit lost here. What are the sets of 10 and 10?

Regards

crackers

Quote from: Robeenhuut on April 01, 2012, 01:04:37 PM
Could you be more clear in your explanation of your strategy?  Im bit lost here. What are the sets of 10 and 10?

If dozen 25-36 sleeps then you put 10 on dozen 1-12 and you put 10 on dozen 13-24.

You must know what a sleeping dozen is because you commented on a "+20" sleeping dozen back on March 18th.

Hope that makes it more clear.

cheese

If you must bet 2 dozens at once, and I don't recommend
it, do it only on a single zero wheel. The two zero wheel
will kill you. Because you're betting twice as much as you'll
win (ouch), when you make a bad decision and the zeros gang
up on you, in just a few spins you can be 6-8 units behind
and never get caught up. Its a good way to play when everything
is going great, and horrible when things are not going great.

Betting two dozens with a progression doesn't beat the house
edge, far from it.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: crackers on April 01, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
If dozen 25-36 sleeps then you put 10 on dozen 1-12 and you put 10 on dozen 13-24.

You must know what a sleeping dozen is because you commented on a "+20" sleeping dozen back on March 18th.

Hope that makes it more clear.

Thats fine but how can you tell that a dozen will sleep many times in a row?  I see dozen sleep for more than 15 spins basically every day and i play slingshot for 5 or 6 hours a day.  The longest streak was 25 but im aware that 30 is possible but extremely rare.
If you want to bet on double dozens just bet against one dozen that hit 4 times in a row. It happens quite often. I never saw more than 7 hits although 12 or 13 could happen.  Just do 1,3,9,27  but i use sometimes 1,3,6,15 for wins just on 2 first steps.

cheese

Quote from: Robeenhuut on April 01, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
If you want to bet on double dozens just bet against one dozen that hit 4 times in a row.

You'll notice that a dozen that hits like 7-8 out
of 10 spins in all likelihood will sleep for awhile, making
the other dozens hot. This is often a good clue to
use instead of just waiting for a dozen to obviously
sleep. It doesn't work all the time, but it works often
enough. As often as anything else.

cheese

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