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Started by crackers, March 30, 2012, 02:11:16 PM

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albertojonas

what if you loose?
:blush2:

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crackers

Quote from: albertojonas on April 06, 2012, 06:43:56 PM
what if you lose?
:blush

I don't want to figure out that string of spins. You need to just explain what it means to you. Like what condition you see, how you bet, and how you began to lose.

When I lose I stop betting on condition. The only time I'll keep going is when a dominance condition is occurring. That's when a condition is 90% or better.

crackers

Your systems lose because you play through the killer sequences. So what is a killer sequence?

There are times when the Black Jack  dealer kills off everyone at the table for several hands at a time. The reason is that the deck is arranged with a lot of cards that favor the dealer. You can observe several hands to see if you should join a table. This simple tactic can save you from entering the game in a disadvantaged condition. This same principle applies to Roulette. Most systems use blind rules and triggers. With that your system must play through unfavorable conditions. If you don't give up on Roulette first you will eventually give up on rules and triggered based systems.

If you stick with Roulette you will eventually consider the current conditions and work with methods that deal with favorable sequences really work.

amk

Would be great to have XXVV post on this thread.

As well as Gizmotron :)

iggiv

can't rely on dozens. too stiff patterns. it is like betting one of 3 combinations of 12 numbers. Think about it. How stiff this pattern is. U got only 3 choices. Not good, not good!

(that's why they created "nice" convenient table layout)

crackers

Quote from: iggiv on April 21, 2012, 06:35:17 PM
can't rely on dozens. too stiff patterns. it is like betting one of 3 combinations of 12 numbers. Think about it. How stiff this pattern is. U got only 3 choices. Not good, not good!

Bayes has a great thread for catching EC's. He's using DBL to catch trends. It catches the start of singles or streaks of reds or blacks. The only thing that kills it are doubles. Doubles are rare as a trend.

But with the dozens, the sleeping dozen is king. You just flat bet until it ends. Now there are many  aspects to discuss regarding this. After all, that's the point of a forum.

Nathan Detroit

It is  not hewn in   stone that one must play dozens  on the table  layout . There are  better ways  to   win with  dozens the  proper way or as Frank  sang    "  I did  it my way ".   :yahoo:


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!


iggiv

better you "spread" your patterns playing trends -- better results u will get. 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 18 different numbers -- all is OK for catching trends from time to time. "Less stiff" and more flexible u r -- more alive u r :)


Nathan Detroit

The  flexible  22  are the  key.  :ok:


N.D.



P.S.  To crackers. Some casinos do NOT permit mid shoe entry   at BJ .  :diablo:

albertojonas

Quote from: crackers on April 06, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
I don't want to figure out that string of spins. You need to just explain what it means to you. Like what condition you see, how you bet, and how you began to lose.

When I lose I stop betting on condition. The only time I'll keep going is when a dominance condition is occurring. That's when a condition is 90% or better.
please explain how a condition is 90% or better. you mean by condition the interpretation you make from the random flow. -At those interpretations i believe you call tools.

crackers

Quote from: iggiv on April 21, 2012, 08:34:26 PM
better you "spread" your patterns playing trends -- better results u will get. 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 18 different numbers -- all is OK for catching trends from time to time. "Less stiff" and more flexible u r -- more alive u r :)

I have nine individual sets or 12 numbers based on their location on the American wheel. These are memorized so I can track them in charts more easily. Now there's the six dozens in the table layout too. I also haves set that's  sometimes dozens and sometime EC 's. That set is digital. 1, 11, 21, 31, -- 2, 12, 22, 32, -- 3, 13, 23, 33, ... 0, 00, 10, 20, 30. The first set are the 1's, the second set are the 2's... etc. The last set are the tens or the zeros.

albertojonas

Quote from: crackers on April 06, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
I don't want to figure out that string of spins. You need to just explain what it means to you. Like what condition you see, how you bet, and how you began to lose.

That string of spins was just for you please illustrate the tools you would use and what do you see hat is exploitable. i mean this in a concrete example, so we (i) can get the feel of it.

Cheers

albertojonas

Also my question What if loose was addressed to the regression method of many management the you propose. The thing is how to deal with a bad swing. Flat betting two dozens as previously?
Lets put it this way, you make your first bet 10 & 10 if you loose you are 20 minus. You do not chase your loss and the condition you were betting is gone. how to deal with this?
Quote from: crackers on April 11, 2012, 01:27:36 PM
Your systems lose because you play through the killer sequences. So what is a killer sequence?
,,,
If you stick with Roulette you will eventually consider the current conditions and work with methods that deal with favorable sequences really work.
When "reading" the random flow one should be able to adapt and play through any circumstance. Besides we all know the less exposure, better the odds.

Cheers

crackers

Quote from: albertojonas on April 21, 2012, 09:00:17 PM
please explain how a condition is 90% or better. you mean by condition the interpretation you make from the random flow. -At those interpretations I believe you call tools.

Have you ever noticed this before? When it changes to black it repeats black for at least five or six times. Then when it hits red it repeats for six or seven hits. It keeps this up for a while. It's  still a long streak. Its just not a pure streak. Here's another one. You get eight blacks in a row, one single red, and then ten more blacks in a row. It's not a pure streak of blacks, but almost as good and highly profitable.

albertojonas

Quote from: crackers on April 21, 2012, 09:20:59 PM
Have you ever noticed this before? When it changes to black it repeats black for at least five or six times. Then when it hits red it repeats for six or seven hits. It keeps this up for a while. It's  still a long streak. Its just not a pure streak. Here's another one. You get eight blacks in a row, one single red, and then ten more blacks in a row. It's not a pure streak of blacks, but almost as good and highly profitable.

it repeats just as many times as it doesn't.

a single that follows a series = a series that follows a series

what are you referring to? Ecart (STD)?

Can you be more explicit?

albertojonas

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