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The Grail of Randomness

Started by crackers, March 30, 2012, 02:11:16 PM

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Nickmsi

"Let's look closer at what happened. rrrrBBBBBrrrrrBBBBrrrrrrBBBrrrr

Red hit 4, 5, 6, & 4. Black hit 5, 4, & 3.  With the Black hitting just three
times in that last time after it changed to Black it hit just two more
times. "

What's he trend here?  I see several?

Red goes from 4-5-6 and then back to 4? Do we expect Red to repeat the 4-5-6?

Black goes from 5-4-3 and then to what?  If it is like the Red, it should be 5-4-3 and back to 5?
Or is the trend simply that Black is going in descending order, 5-4-3-and the next should be 2?

Red ascends 3 consecutive times (4-5-6), Black descends 3 consecutive times (5-4-3). Is this the trend we expect to repeat?

Thanks . . . Nick






TwoCatSam

rrrrBBBBBrrrrrBBBBrrrrrrBBBrrrr


The chances of seeing that sequence are virtually nil.  How many years would one have to wait to see that?

Get you a huge ol' bankroll and bet a Martingale against that happening.  You'll spend years winning if you don't chicken out or hit the table limit.

Sam

iggiv

Cracker and Cheese, how about having some fun here, a little  virtual competition? someone will give u some spins (as many as u need), u can give your virtual bets and stakes, and we will see how u r doing? then u can prove your claims if u want. Won't cost u a dime. How bout that?

crackers

Quote from: Nickmsi
Red goes from 4-5-6 and then back to 4? Do we expect Red to repeat the 4-5-6?

Black goes from 5-4-3 and then to what?

Nick, those patterns could most certainly continue. They could be some form or a perfect
pattern. You can always risk one bet on it to find out. But I just made it up to illustrate the
existence of the over all simplest trait. I want to communicate examples of the global effect.
It's not an easy concept to grasp. Some times there are trends without a larger context. In
fact most of the time there is no larger over all context. But when there is it can be highly
profitable.

crackers


Thanks Sam. Are you sure you want to recommend the Martingale?

I'm attempting to communicate concepts and illustrate characteristics. All the
examples are exaggerated in order to make seeing them easier. I dare you to
prove that when red changes to black or when black changes to red that the
reds will never repeat at least two more times before changing  to black. The
same goes for the black. I'll bet someone can find a sequence at the Wiesbaton
archives that is more complex than my example here and that will be from a
sequence of real spins.


Quote from: TwoCatSam on April 28, 2012, 10:52:18 AM
rrrrBBBBBrrrrrBBBBrrrrrrBBBrrrr


The chances of seeing that sequence are virtually nil.  How many years would one have to wait to see that?

Get you a huge ol' bankroll and bet a Martingale against that happening.  You'll spend years winning if you don't chicken out or hit the table limit.

Sam

crackers

Quote from: iggiv on April 28, 2012, 11:34:49 AM
Cracker and Cheese, how about having some fun here, a little  virtual competition? someone will give u some spins (as many as u need), u can give your virtual bets and stakes, and we will see how u r doing? then u can prove your claims if u want. Won't cost u a dime. How bout that?

How about some better fun than that. How about finding examples of randomness
characteristics from archives of real spins and demonstrating them here. They would
be qualified proof of concept.

iggiv

look, those blurry "characteristics" don't mean anything to most of the people. Result do.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on April 28, 2012, 10:52:18 AM
rrrrBBBBBrrrrrBBBBrrrrrrBBBrrrr


The chances of seeing that sequence are virtually nil.  How many years would one have to wait to see that?

Get you a huge ol' bankroll and bet a Martingale against that happening.  You'll spend years winning if you don't chicken out or hit the table limit.

Sam

You sure ?  I saw 18 L in a row last nite on SM. Yeah yours is a bit longer sequence.

crackers

Quote from: iggiv on April 28, 2012, 02:53:47 PM
look, those blurry "characteristics" don't mean anything to most of the people. Result do.

If you have no interest in the characteristics of randomness then why all the
urging to show you a demonstration. I'm no good at spoon feeding children.
I understand  your impatient demanding authority. We all do. You want a life.
Don't blame me if you surround yourself with those that complain to you.
I guess you consider them all the proof you need. If you want to stop me
from publishing this here I can find another way to do this.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: crackers on April 28, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
If you have no interest in the characteristics of randomness then why all the
urging to show you a demonstration. I'm no good at spoon feeding children.
I understand  your impatient demanding authority. We all do. You want a life.
Don't blame me if you surround yourself with those that complain to you.
I guess you consider them all the proof you need. If you want to stop me
from publishing this here I can find another way to do this.

You are a very serious individual MR Crackers. Cant you crack a joke? :agree:

iggiv

Gizmo-Crackers, I was thinking better of u. U take it to the personal level.
I do not intend to shut u up, I told u. I was ASKING, not demanding.
Your dodging showing real results, and stuff which u try to pile on me PERSONALLY just shows how serious teacher and roulette player u r. That's a good answer to someone who just tried to ask u for showing REAL RESULTS.

I am not touching your personal life (like u tried with me) in return, I have no interest in it, and it has nothing to do with roulette.

but your weird attitude does. I doubt very much that u can show real good results.

well, thanx for your nice reply anyway. Go on with "blah-blah-blah". I knew nothing would come out of  it.

Quote from: crackers on April 28, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
If you have no interest in the characteristics of randomness then why all the
urging to show you a demonstration. I'm no good at spoon feeding children.
I understand  your impatient demanding authority. We all do. You want a life.
Don't blame me if you surround yourself with those that complain to you.
I guess you consider them all the proof you need. If you want to stop me
from publishing this here I can find another way to do this.

crackers

Quote from: Robeenhuut on April 28, 2012, 03:17:00 PM
You are a very serious individual MR Crackers. Cant you crack a joke? :agree:

Sure, I'm ending Roulette after more than 200 years of effort from others.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: crackers on April 28, 2012, 03:51:36 PM
Sure, I'm ending Roulette after more than 200 years of effort from others.

Its about time  :pleasantry:

crackers

Quote from: TwoCatSam on April 28, 2012, 10:52:18 AM
rrrrBBBBBrrrrrBBBBrrrrrrBBBrrrr

The chances of seeing that sequence are virtually nil.  How many years would one have to wait to see that

I overlooked this. My mistake. It so easy for me to see thousands of permutations of
significant sequences. They are significant to me because I've trained myself to see
patterns. I was crucified by everyone for suggesting the existence of the elegant pattern.
I see them so easy that it's like child's play. A primary tool that I depend on and most
people prefer to deny their existence. It took me years. That's not knowing for sure that
it was even real and why back then. But I know for sure now. My very biggest wins are
because of them.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on April 28, 2012, 04:30:43 AM
Every visit to the casino is
a unique experience. Only a fool would expect the same statistics for each visit to the
casino.

Good god. Its an AVERAGE, it has nothing to do
with how you did yesterday or this morning.
Its an AVERAGE of all your hundreds of sessions
together. Its the yardstick of how you measure
your play. If its 63% you're screwed. Breaking even
on playing two dozens at once is 66%, and thats
without the zeros. Progressions won't save you
in the long run.

cheese

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