What does Cheese have to say about Randomness?

[iggiv]

i am not gonna talk anyone into anything. I am just tired of fruitless talks with no results, that's it. Just "blah-blah-blah", teaching this and teaching that. Claiming this and claiming that. And that's goin for YEARS for God's sake!!

Nothing comes out of it! I don't wanna shut up anyone, everyone has a right to his opinion and ideas (as long as he does not break the rules) and you and Cheese are free to argue 100 more years if u want. But i  personally would love to see proof of your claims, that's it. And if someone teaches anything, it is much better if there will be RESULTS of this kind of teaching. I see no results, just endless talks. Claims of this and claims of that, and lots of lingo and terminology, which means nothing as long as there are NO REAL RESULTS.

Show us how your concept work in practice please. Till then it is just "blah-blah-blah". And the same goes for Cheese as well by the way. Though i've heard that Cheese is a magician of roulette, but anyway why not show us some tricks u guys claim to do?

just a few successful virtual sessions with good solid hitting rate. Many people with no interest to lie can provide u with a data of live spins. All u have to do is just to make virtual bets sometimes.
And it won't take long time, it doesn't have to be done within one day or so. U guys have plenty of time for "blah-blah-blah" in this forum. Why not impress us by showing some results sometimes? Dedicate part of your "blah-blah-blah" time for real results, that's it.

then if we see real results we will remove our hats here with respect.

[cheese]

You are the joke of the internet for your claim.

And you managed to become a joke without sharing
yours. Congratulations.

[crackers]

And you managed to become a joke without sharing
yours. Congratulations.

You deserve pity for seeing progressions behind all the trees. That's out there with
the crickets.

[cheese]

Question: Whats a progression?

Answer: Don't ask Gizmo, he hasn't got a clue.

[iggiv]

Guys, let's talk about roulette, not your personal qualities and behaviour. thanx

[crackers]

Just ban him. He never shares anything anyway.

[cheese]

Just ban him. He never shares anything anyway.

But you keep 'sharing' those demos. Why?

[ll l ll l lll ll]

What does Cheese have to say about randomness?

He claims he coined the phrase "reading random."

What does he say?

Cheese (SPIKE) says, "So what I do is pretend the wheel is playing a game with it's outcomes, when it's really not.  I'm the one who's playing and inventing and sometimes the wheel co-operates with my game, sometimes it doesn't.  About 72% of the time it does and thats enough to make a good profit from it."

I believe now I am doing the same thing, if not something VERY similar.  My bet is NEVER the same, flat betting only the even chances.  I have studied everything I can about 'random' and I now know how it behaves.  The next spin is just as important as the 15-20 spins before it.  It's the stream of spins that's important.  Learn how random behaves, and learn to exploit the incoming data when the variance changes.  I am managing to break even for almost as long as I like, when the variance tilts in my favor I win. -Sometimes as many as 5-7 units in a row.  It's happening regularly, Spike and Gizmo are 100% correct, it takes practice to get better.  The more I practice, the more I see.  Currently averaging +5 units a 40-60 spin session flat betting, no losses.  Over 500 sessions.

[crackers]

Sounds great to me. I couldn't be more pleased. 500 sessions in the black. That's great.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

Although playing trends can be useful, i'm not really doing that because I can never get much consistency with them.  I can catch some trends, but i'm just as likely to jump on a losing trend; I tend to go up and down.

Instead, i'm looking at the stream as a whole knowing that typical random behavior produces many series of singles, fewer doubles, even fewer triples, and not many longer series.  I can anticipate and guess with some good accuracy it seems what I need to be playing on the next spin.  Regular practice makes me sharper.

[bombus]

Cheese (SPIKE) says, "So what I do is pretend the wheel is playing a game with it's outcomes, when it's really not.  I'm the one who's playing and inventing and sometimes the wheel co-operates with my game, sometimes it doesn't...

That's what systems do. 

[crackers]

That's what systems do. 

It's true that any bet selection system can be used to discover conditions
that are favorable. The craft expertise comes when you have enough
experience to adjust to the changing conditions as they evolve. For me,
it's very simple. A trend never guarantees that a favorable condition is
occurring. Patterns sometimes end just as you begin to use them. If you
can find anything that continues for a while then you can exploit it. That
includes times when first bets on trends fail to work. You have to look at
everything with the big perspective and the small perspective. This is where
I've been at for years. In that time most people struggled with the basic
question of the existence of patterns and trends. The secret to gaining
experience is in gaining enough ability to rapidly change as the conditions
change. The perceived change could be as simple as guessing correctly in
patches that can be seen as a loosely formed pattern. Every condition must
be weighed against its effectiveness as a correct guess. The more conditions
that you see the more opportunities you can test for effectiveness. In the end
you gain an expertise that surrounds session effectiveness. That's the top level.

[crackers]

There's always this:

        Bing Crosby "Swinging on a Star"
      - YouTube
 

[crackers]

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