Optimising the Holy Grail

[insidebet]

From what I read, this guy s method is played with a very steep progression.  Given the right conditions, (very deep BR, high table limits and extreme luck), it is possible to win 2 000 sessions in a row.  Thing is: he will lose it all in one or two sessions from hell.  You can bet your sweet a... on it.  The other thing is: anybody that has a little less luck could encounter that session from hell on his fifth visit to the casino.

Insidebet

[ben10]

@2CatSam
I apologise for the delay, was busy on skype with another member last night, will get in touch with you next

@insidebet
to recover my bankroll, I need to win about 30 sessions only - you can do the maths on just how steep it is and what 2000 winnning sessions has already done for me, its just a little bit more than luck if I may say so (read my post on optimising bankrolls)

[insidebet]

It is just the point I am trying to make: htere are no way to "optimize bankroll" as you put it. Either you have a winning method flatbetting , or you don't.  If you don't, there are no progressions that will you make you win on the long run.  Think about it: 200 friggin years of trying systems with progressions!!!  And still looking for one that won't crash.  And you say you have found one? 

This not to say that your method is not good.  Just that progressions are very misleading and will cause your ruin on the long run.  I have played stuff with progressions in the past.  But that was just for the fun of it.  I won and stopped playing that because I know it was just down to luck and good timing.  Push your luck and it will ruin you.

Insider

[mcmonaco]

Sir I beleieve you can do it and that your intentions are
not as some here claim.Been there and seen it useless.
Only insults,negative vibrations and mostly from these
that probably never top the chip in the casino.Follow this
phenomena for years now on these forums.And one of
those call self gurus took his part in this thread,but you
should know that this gent never seen inside Casino,may
be outside......LOL..... how do I know this??
Next time maybe.

[insidebet]

I dont know if you re refering to me. But it just plain useless to think that ANY kind of progression-based system will make you win.

I heard your type of comments a zillion times too. <<don t mind these negative comments. Those people have never made a bet in a casino, bla-bla-bla>>  For your info, I have made well over 300 000 bets (almost all them flatbets, by the way).  And I am way ahead.  Can you top that?

Anyway, this not about you can piss further.  This about logic, my friend.

Insider

[Swarm!]

If the holy grail was write on casino's walls , no one will really pay attention to it.

Manrique.

The holy grail Formula:

Bet less , risk less when losing...

Bet more , risk more , when winning...

Swarm.

[mcmonaco]

I dont know if you re refering to me. But it just plain useless to think that ANY kind of progression-based system will make you win.

I heard your type of comments a zillion times too. <<don t mind these negative comments. Those people have never made a bet in a casino, bla-bla-bla>>  For your info, I have made well over 300 000 bets (almost all them flatbets, by the way).  And I am way ahead.  Can you top that?

Anyway, this not about you can piss further.  This about logic, my friend.

Insider

--Didn't mean you,but winning without a progression/there are new never seen on these forums/would be impossible.....flat bet that you are way ahead I don't believe couse no man
ever won flat betting on the long run.And that is a logic.

[Nathan Detroit]

Bets  like  the EC at roulette or baccarat B or P  ( Punto Banco  for you in Euroland )  actually scream for the  up and pull /  regression method while  some  inside bets   leave it up  to the discretion of the  player  to use or not to use  positive or negative progressions.

N.D.

[ben10]

Thanks for the insight guys, if the Holy Grail does NOT exist, then let me ride my luck to infinity and beyond...

With regards to optimising a progression, instead of winning the minimum to break even/profit in a progression step (like 3 units, then 12 units, then 1 unit, then 7 units etc...), look at winning an average of 20 units for EACH step. What this does is increase your initial bankroll, but also reduces the number of wins required to recover your progression bankroll in the event of a loss. Think about it first before commenting

[Robeenhuut]

Thanks for the insight guys, if the Holy Grail does NOT exist, then let me ride my luck to infinity and beyond...

With regards to optimising a progression, instead of winning the minimum to break even/profit in a progression step (like 3 units, then 12 units, then 1 unit, then 7 units etc...), look at winning an average of 20 units for EACH step. What this does is increase your initial bankroll, but also reduces the number of wins required to recover your progression bankroll in the event of a loss. Think about it first before commenting

There is really nothing to comment on so far    We had lots of posts like this before and nothing was really posted.

[J8]

Hello Ben10  . .

Here's a couple thoughts regarding what one can do with a winning system.

First, I would not sell it.  It would be priceless and mass distribution would dilute the pools and change the way roulette is played in the future.

I would not give it away.  While I firmly believe in passing on good fortune and helping others, I also believe it is better to give a person a shovel and let him plant his own food rather than just give him the food.

What I would do is immediately share the system with my family and close friends, most of whom, need work and/or additional income in these trying times.

With other forum members, I would mentor them, just like I have been in the past.  I have learned more from one mentor than from all members in this or any forum.  I have learned to think outside the box with things like modulo arithmetic and pigeon hole theory.

While some may believe there is no Holy Grail, I believe we cannot learn too much. The more we know the better we become.

What a mentor can do is teach a full course in roulette, teach why progressions don't work, why event based systems don't work, show examples, give exercises to learn, and finally graduate the student when they arrive at a winning system.

Learning is a life long experience.

Nick

I won pretty much last month with mcmonaco's method & his system is public.

[Robeenhuut]

I won pretty much last month with mcmonaco's method & his system is public.

Whats a system you played?

[J8]

Whats a system you played?

The 4-5 sectors system, there is a detailed description on the other website. I've had an 85% win ratio whenever I used it on the alfastreet aiball; I use my own adaptation-instead of 2 units on sectors (eg.:1 on 1-4 split & 1 on 7-10 split) I bet 80 units on 1 split of any sector (1ron=10 units=0.27 Euros) =>4.45 euros/sector. It's small, but slow & steady wins the race.

[rayhd63]

Hi J8,

where would I find the 4-5 sector system ?!? Do you know ?
I tried to find it but no luck !!!

Ray 

[J8]

Hi J8,

where would I find the 4-5 sector system ?!? Do you know ?
I tried to find it but no luck !!!

Ray 

nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=326.0
It's explained in the excel sheet from the 1st post here.
F_LAT_INO is mcmonaco.

[J8]

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