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Started by winkel, August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM

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winkel

hi Boo_Ray,

when we meet a crossing there are following possibilities

10-10
9-11 win

10-10
10-10
10-10
10-10
three losses and stopp

10-10
11-10 loss and bet new trigger 11-10
12-10 loss and stopp because no trigger anymore

Rules
play only difference 0 or 1
stopp playing when difference >1
stopp playing when win cannot push you to plus

these are all rules of the game

br
winkel

Compa

Quote from: winkel on August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM
This is one of my ultimate systems that win flat bet, no progression needed.



as you see in this picture there is one thing for sure: The Lines have to cross!

to play that is very simple.
You can start at any point, at any casino, at any table.

First the basics:
We know at the first spin there has to appear one number, so we count:
36 not appeared - 1 appeared
35 - 2
34 - 3 etc.

then we might come to this point:
19 - 18
now we bet the 19 numbers that not appeared because the statistic has to change to 18 - 19
during the spins we bet when the following combinations appear:
19 - 18
18 - 17
17 - 17
17 - 16
16 - 16
16 - 15
15 - 15
15 - 14
14 - 14
14 - 13
etc.

the difference between appeared and not appeared numbers has to be 0 or 1.
The second bet situation:
we have numbers that appeared once and numbers that appeared more than once:
every time there is a difference of 0 or 1, we bet the numbers that appeared once.
The third situation to bet:
We have numbers that appeared twice and numbers that appeared more than twice.
every time there is a difference of 0 or 1, we bet the numbers that appeared twice.

if we have to bet 19 or 18, we just bet once
if we have to bet less than 18, then we bet as often as there is a win or 0 possible:
17 to 13 numbers - we bet twice
12 to 10 - we bet three times
9 to 8 - we bet four times

do you get the idea?

br
winkel






Hello Winkel. To me this seem to be mirrors. Each number has a mirrornumber. So 1 has 36, 2 has 35 and so on up to 17->20. Then it reverse to 21->16,  22->15 again and so on,  back to 36->1. So we are betting that last  mirrornumbers that has not hit?

Thank you
Cheers
/Compa

Natural9

Quote from: Compa on August 29, 2008, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: winkel on August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM
This is one of my ultimate systems that win flat bet, no progression needed.



as you see in this picture there is one thing for sure: The Lines have to cross!

to play that is very simple.
You can start at any point, at any casino, at any table.

First the basics:
We know at the first spin there has to appear one number, so we count:
36 not appeared - 1 appeared
35 - 2
34 - 3 etc.

then we might come to this point:
19 - 18
now we bet the 19 numbers that not appeared because the statistic has to change to 18 - 19
during the spins we bet when the following combinations appear:
19 - 18
18 - 17
17 - 17
17 - 16
16 - 16
16 - 15
15 - 15
15 - 14
14 - 14
14 - 13
etc.

the difference between appeared and not appeared numbers has to be 0 or 1.
The second bet situation:
we have numbers that appeared once and numbers that appeared more than once:
every time there is a difference of 0 or 1, we bet the numbers that appeared once.
The third situation to bet:
We have numbers that appeared twice and numbers that appeared more than twice.
every time there is a difference of 0 or 1, we bet the numbers that appeared twice.

if we have to bet 19 or 18, we just bet once
if we have to bet less than 18, then we bet as often as there is a win or 0 possible:
17 to 13 numbers - we bet twice
12 to 10 - we bet three times
9 to 8 - we bet four times

do you get the idea?

br
winkel






Hello Winkel. To me this seem to be mirrors. Each number has a mirrornumber. So 1 has 36, 2 has 35 and so on up to 17->20. Then it reverse to 21->16,  22->15 again and so on,  back to 36->1. So we are betting that last  mirrornumbers that has not hit?

Thank you
Cheers
/Compa

As long as they mirrors not smoke and mirrors  ;D :D ;D :D

Boo_Ray

Quote from: winkel on August 29, 2008, 06:20:58 PM
hi Boo_Ray,

when we meet a crossing there are following possibilities

10-10
9-11 win

10-10
10-10
10-10
10-10
three losses and stopp

10-10
11-10 loss and bet new trigger 11-10
12-10 loss and stopp because no trigger anymore

Rules
play only difference 0 or 1
stopp playing when difference >1
stopp playing when win cannot push you to plus

these are all rules of the game

br
winkel

thanks winkel,

I was testing wrong at beginning then, maybe that cause one -66 run
will do more tests

cya

bjb007

I think that after 15 pages of this crap
it's time to admit it was a joke and move
on to something else.

Boo_Ray

Quote from: bjb007 on August 30, 2008, 06:38:06 AM
I think that after 15 pages of this crap
it's time to admit it was a joke and move
on to something else.

o.k move to something else, and show us what you have..

btw just had a test and had a +128 units in 39spins (test with real money)

bjb either you don't understeand this method or you a re full of yourself..

keep away if you don't like it

or give us some of your results and prove us
I don't like to argue o.k? but show some respect or atleast be quiet, I dont want that this will be moved to pit..
Best thing to do is that moderator delete bjbs post and this post..

cya
peace




NTM


Lohnro

I have attached a spreadsheet with 100 tests using winkle's system. I tried to keep it a simple as possible with the following rules:

Only track 0x and 1x.
Flat bet.
Stop on 1st win and re-track.
Stop if lose 4 bets and re-track.
Only bet 17 or less numbers.

I am sure this was not the optimum way to test this system, but it is how I started to test it and I did not expect it to go so well.

The stats are:
+333 units
POT - 12%
S/R - 72%
Ave win per game 3.3

It took a bit of a nose dive at the end but all in all, pretty good!!



NTM

thank you for posting your exel spreedsheet

very good work

very precise

with a lot of informations

your maximum drawdown was 98 dollar?

@winlel
can you comment this way of playing your strategy

bjb007

You're probably right about my lack of
understanding.

What I do understand is that there will
eventually be X numbers hit and X-1
not hit - or is it X+1?  Both are possible.

Nothing new there.

Then more numbers will hit. 
Nothing new there.

But what use is this well-known info?

How does it indicate a number to bet on?

Anyone?

winkel

what shall I comment?

I just gave the point where to bet. The rules are simple.

I never said it wins always. But it wins that often that you will never loose your bankroll of 200 units.
You have to make 12 wrong decisions on 17 numbers (=204 units) to loose your bankroll. you will never find such a long Loosing-streak. Thats all!

The longer you play this, you will find other hints that will make your decisions to bet better.
(see other posts in this thread.)



br
winkel

Boo_Ray

read his first post, It is easy to understeand, try to chart for yourself and you will get it

winkel

Quote from: bjb007 on August 30, 2008, 08:09:45 AM
You're probably right about my lack of
understanding.

What I do understand is that there will
eventually be X numbers hit and X-1
not hit - or is it X+1?  Both are possible.

Nothing new there.

Then more numbers will hit. 
Nothing new there.

But what use is this well-known info?

How does it indicate a number to bet on?

Anyone?



You´d better read again from the start.
You didn´t got any idea of this strategy

br
winkel

Compa

Guten Tag dr. winkel. Thank You for posting this system in the first place! (Sehr gut!)

1. Is this based on mirror numbers? 1 =mirror 36, 2 = mirror 35 and so on.

2.Shall we track the mirrornumbers that has not hit? So if 1 hit we will bet 36, because it did not hit,,and so on..?

3. Can you make an explanation (for dummies) with specific numbers and what to do with them? (except win on them)

Thank You
/Compa

winkel

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/gut-tracker/msg18635/#msg18635

please use this little program

it shows which numbers to bet. It doesn´t refer to any mirroring. You´ve mixed up the counting of numbers to bet with the actual numbers on the wheel.

br
winkel

winkel

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