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Started by winkel, August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM

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winkel

@tcs

keep it simple

When we start counting with the first spin we have only non-comers and once-comers!
The first Crossing is between numbers that came and that not appear.
Remember I said: don´t play 19 numbers.

we watch always the crossing between numbers
- that appeared (x)-times and numbers that appeared (x+1)-times
- that appeared (x)-times and numbers that appeared (>x)-times
to get most possible bet-selections

imagine you would count 150 spins with this possible result:

R N F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 F11
1 2  3  6   9  5   4   3  2   1         1

possible crossings:
F5 with F6
F6 with F7
F7 with F8
F8 with F9+F11
R+N+F2 with F3

But we shorten the selection to this crossings:
R with N
N with "all F"
N with F2
and not yet mentioned but visible in the diagram
R with "all F"

br
winkel



Wildcard

 
Sam, i am at work right now, so i cannot elaborate on my answer, but here´s something to chew on  ;)

Examples:

19   13   5  >>  bet 19 numbers  ...

meaning you bet the 19 numbers that did not appear... this is because the difference from 19 numbers that did not appear against 18 numbers that have already appeared once or more is 1, so this means there´s a betting opportunity... but as winkel said, this is not advisable to bet, therefore you could simply eliminate this step so there´s no confusion on this part... Just focus on subtracting the values from each to adjoining columns... like bellow:

18   12   7  >>  Consider the relations between column 1 and 2  OR  2 and 3... always favouring the first.
                       What we do here is  18-12= 6, so no betting opportunity
                                              OR 12-7 = 5, so no betting opportunity (Keep tracking)

15   15   7  >>  bet 15 numbers... why ?  Because 15-15= 0, so there´s a chance for betting the 15 non-appearers.

                       OR you could consider 15-7= 8 ... so 8 means no betting opportunity on the set of numbers that appeared once... rememeber you always make a decision favouring the first result.

So in this case, you would chose to bet considering 15-15=0 or 15-7=8.
As you have a 0 on the first result, you bet the "first" set of 15 numbers, meaning the 15 the 15 non-appearers.

Hope it helps, i really want you to understand this, i mean it... once it "clicks" you will be able to help us further down the road... as usual.




winkel

another example


Coup Zahl R N F
1 16 36 1 0
2 11 35 2 0
3 11 35 1 1
4 29 34 2 1
5 16 34 1 2
6 20 33 2 2
7 9 32 3 2
8 4 31 4 2
9 28 30 5 2
10 3 29 6 2
11 5 28 7 2
12 32 27 8 2
13 21 26 9 2
14 19 25 10 2
15 31 24 11 2
16 5 24 10 3
17 21 24 9 4
18 8 23 10 4
19 14 22 11 4
20 23 21 12 4
21 2 20 13 4
22 22 19 14 4 first possible bet but not recommended
23 26 18 15 4
24 34 17 16 4 possible bet
25 26 17 15 5 lost -17
26 3 17 14 6 lost and stopp -34
27 0 16 15 6 possible bet
28 1 15 16 6 hit -14
29 0 15 15 7 possible bet
30 36 14 16 7 hit +7

TwoCatSam

winkel

Now you have added a new column.  In your first post, you have columns 0x  1x and  >1.  Now look at what you've written:

"we watch always the crossing between numbers
- that appeared (x)-times and numbers that appeared (x+1)-times.....now you have a new column, x+1
- that appeared (x)-times and numbers that appeared (>x)-times
to get most possible bet-selections"

You say  to "keep it simple".  I am asking very simple, very specific questions.

Each time you post you change the terminology. 

Sam

TwoCatSam

Wildcard

Believe me, I am trying to understand this.  I have tried to understand every thing this man has ever written.  If you don't understand or you ask too many questions, all he knows to say is "keep it simple".  I, TwoCat, am the one trying to keep it simple.  Pretty soon he will be saying he'll leave the forum because I ask the wrong questions or Herb asks the wrong questions or makes the wrong assertions.

What's this?  We work to understand the 19-18 and then he says, "Oh, forget that.  Not a good bet."  Then why did we have it to contend with in the first place.

So, in keeping with the original format of 0x, 1x and >1, if we exclude the 19-18 from the betting, why do we need the >1 column?

In the final analysis we are only betting on numbers that have not come.  Must they come?  Well, sure, sometime....... 

I must be missing the big picture.

Sam

Boo_Ray

I try to explain but i am not realy sure what do you want to know..

lets say there are 0x 1x 2x 3x 4x

2x 3x and 4x all belong to >1

if that is wat you want to know?


winkel

no not a new column

lets start again:

a = numbers that didn't appear is to understand or not?
b = numbers that appeared once is to understand, or not?
c = numbers that appeared twice is to understand, or not?
d = numbers that appeared 3 times is to understand, or not?

now we put the math on it:
we have numbers that didn´t appear and that appeared at all.
(a) and (b+c+d)
then we have numbers appeared not and once
(a) and (b)
then we have numbers appeared once and more than once
(b) and (c+d)
then we have numbers appeared once and twice
(b) and (c)
in german it´s called "Mengenlehre"

now my terminology:
non-appearers R or F0
appearers F>0
once-appearers N or F1
more than once-appearers F>1
twice-appearers F2
more than twice appearers F>2
three times appearers F3
more than three times appearers F>3

TwoCatSam

"
a = numbers that didn't appear is to understand or not?
b = numbers that appeared once is to understand, or not?
c = numbers that appeared twice is to understand, or not?
d = numbers that appeared 3 times is to understand, or not?
"

There are no columns a b c d.  There are only columns 0x, 1x and >1.

Sam

winkel

QuoteWhat's this?  We work to understand the 19-18 and then he says, "Oh, forget that.  Not a good bet."  Then why did we have it to contend with in the first place.

I said in my first post: Basics to understand whats going on.
On the other hand there would have come up the question for 19-18
I explained, why 19-18 is a possible bet, but it is not recommended because this won´t be a winning crossing!
If we want to play without progression we should only bet when one loss can equalized by on win and leves a win.

-19 -19 +36 leaves us -2
-18 -18 +36 leaves us 0
-17 -17 +36 leaves us +2
so maximum bet should be 17 numbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stopp loss after 2 bets:
-19 -19 next bet-selection -19 +36 leaves us with -21
-18 -18 next bet-selection -18 +36 leaves us with -18
-17 -17 next bet-selection -17 +36 leaves us with -15
3 losses can be equalized by two wins if you play less than 18 numbers

you see the progression towards winning?


winkel

Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 21, 2008, 11:40:38 AM
"
a = numbers that didn't appear is to understand or not?
b = numbers that appeared once is to understand, or not?
c = numbers that appeared twice is to understand, or not?
d = numbers that appeared 3 times is to understand, or not?
"

There are no columns a b c d.  There are only columns 0x, 1x and >1.

Sam

read my whole post it contains the explanation of everything!

Boo_Ray

sam

a = 0x
b = 1x
c and d = >1

e f g h i j k l m n o p r s, they would all belong to >1,

In our case "c" would be "2x" and "d" would be "3x"  and 2 and 3 is all more than 1... Do you agree?

TwoCatSam

Boo

I understand.

Now, an apple = 0x; an orange = 1x and a banana = >1.

I just removed a post that was not appropriate.  The above is the simple question.

Why not use the original symbols?

Sam

TwoCatSam

boo

if that is wat you want to know?


I want to know if there is a reason to list numbers in any category other than >1?  Look at the chart.  36 hits three times.  Is 3>1..  I think so.  So why obfuscate the issue if we are only concerned with three columns?

If you imagine vertical bar graphs, one being 0x and one being 1x you would see them approaching level as the numbers came.  Yes, at some point they will switch positions.  I see that. 

Perhaps I should leave this alone for a while.  I don't want to alienate anyone.

Sam

winkel

QuoteI want to know if there is a reason to list numbers in any category other than >1?

simply: Yes

I tried to explain it to you in different ways. Now I´m in the state, that I don´t get your problem.

sorry
winkel

metalrat

Hi Winkel,

To perhaps assist others to understand this system, it may
be an idea to post a spreadsheet detailing the betting triggers as you use them.
Thanks for an innovative concept! :)

regards,

metalrat

metalrat

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