The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

[Kingspin]

I get no pleasure from having to study hard to win.  Ok winkel you put a lot of thought into this , I ain't knocking your "clever method" , it looks like it may be a good system , ALL I said is that it is no fun calculating pretty hard to understand methods before betting. So my punishment for saying this is that I am an idiot ? .    Thats nasty - no other word for it.  Maybe your system rocks but like I say I aman apparent "empty head" (as cool paddy called me) should not speak until spoken to by the greats on here.
This place is looking more and more like a gentlemens club where only the elite few can say anything. I will say this - goodbye................                                                              The place where live.

[Herb]

 

Winkel wrote: "really tried very very hard to be patient.

I didn´t succeed. sorry.

What the hell have I done in several hundreds posts?

I´m fed up! that´s it. I´m off!

bye mates."

Winkel,  I understand your frustration. I'm sorry that your gambling system didn't work.    Before you try to build another one, you should consult the wizard of odds website.  The website will help you grasp the mathematics a little bit better.   Also, feel free to ask myself or any of the other math guys next time for help.

In the short term, you quest was not in vain.  You can learn from your mistakes.


Best of Luck.

-Herb

[Shorty]

I don't understand why people can't understand this? I taught my girlfriend how to do it and she has never set foot in a casino or seen a roulette table in real life.

If you don't understand, read the topic? It's simple.

[TwoCatSam]

Shorty

Looking forward to more of your tests.  I'll be calling on your for help!

Sam

[Shorty]

I have a day off today, so I will get quite a few done me thinks.

[bjb007]

Shorty...

Looks like you're "the man" so perhaps you could
give me (us) the short (say less than 100 words)
description of this system.

As far as I can figure it out it's like this...

If you have X numbers with Y hits and Z numbers
with Y-1 or Y+1 hits then you bet on.....A numbers
with B units until C... because this is more likely than
that.

If you can explain it I can programme it...and I'd
rather be programming it than trying to figure it out.

[Tucktuckster]

Winkel,

Sorry to see you go.

Thank you for the statistics. Thank you for the system. Thank you for your patience.

You have helped me substantially and for that i say thank you.

[Boo_Ray]

If I'm right please explain the betting method.

I really tried very very hard to be patient.

I didn´t succeed. sorry.

What the hell have I done in several hundreds posts?

I´m fed up! that´s it. I´m off!

bye mates

You are right, you did explained well enough for everyone to understand it and you were very patient.. Don't leave, make replys for sensible posts and don't mind about those people who are just too lazy to read a few first posts which are needed to understand that system..

[alex00]

Winkel ... not all people think that sooner or later someone will get a benefit to roulette.

Do not you worry about the negative comments, is part of the lives of the forum. 

Regards

Alex00

[Shorty]

Bjb, you are correct.

You could be playing 1 number, or you could be playing 16. Personally i only play up to 10 numbers, and never play on the '0' column to cross. I believe that's where most of the losses coming from, especially if you are playing 16 numbers.

[iceberg1912]

Winkel,
I never follow up this topic, but I'm sorry about your words.
I think you're one of the guru forum so, act like a guru,...stay.
Ice

[bjb007]

Shorty

How can you flat-bet on 16 numbers?
Two losses in a row and you're out.
And as soon as you decide to bet on
only 10 numbers you've cut your chances
of winning to 60%.

I believe 60% of 50% is 30%.....

Unless it wins more than 50% (which it
might) I don't see the point.  I'd have to be
a genius to figure it out from the info posted.

Seems just like the "Last 12" with the minor
difference that you can move the datum to
get a "last 12"  e.g. if you have 16 numbers with
1 hit and 21 with 2 hits subtract one hit from each
(makes no difference since there's still one hit
between them) and presto! you have a "last 16".

[Natural9]

I get no pleasure from having to study hard to win.  Ok winkel you put a lot of thought into this , I ain't knocking your "clever method" , it looks like it may be a good system , ALL I said is that it is no fun calculating pretty hard to understand methods before betting. So my punishment for saying this is that I am an idiot ? .    Thats nasty - no other word for it.  Maybe your system rocks but like I say I aman apparent "empty head" (as cool paddy called me) should not speak until spoken to by the greats on here.
This place is looking more and more like a gentlemens club where only the elite few can say anything. I will say this - goodbye................                                                              The place where live.

Is everyone taking grumpy pills or something why post negative things its not a gentlemans club it is forum for study and testing.

Roulette isn't easy to beat .The casinos rake in 100's of millions every year

We study and test these methods and discuss them to hopefully give us the edge that we can go into casino confident we can come out with a  profit or at the least with our br intact

Roulette isnt fun like this but maybe the making of money surely is and so the gold at the end of the rainbow is surely worth the hours of chat and study

[bjb007]

So how does one disagree then without
"posting negative things"?

What happened to "free speech"?

[Tucktuckster]

i do feel for winkel.

i think he felt that he had a lot more to offer. but he was not getting there because he was having to explain what was explained in page 1 again and again.

For example - is there an optimal time to play 1 crossing >1. I find around spin 47 to 50 hits well.

Is there an optimal time to play 0 crossing 1? I find before 30 and it is generally early. Around 30th spin is early for it to cross but it wins well. My suspicion is that is that is early due to zeros hitting - so let the trend be your friend. As long as in last 3 pops there have not been 3 zeroes hit, it seems to hit in the 2 goes.......

Around 40 spins isnt late as such for 0 s 1. Its probably less late than 30 is early - but success is not as high.

Now i wish winkel were here to discuss things like this........

I wish i had engaged in more conversation and asked him more when he was here.

All i can suggest is that if he comes on here and sees 20 posts b***hing he will not come back. If he comes on and sees questions that show that quite a few of us have taken time to understand what he has taken time to teach then he may think it worthwhile to teach some more.

[Tucktuckster]

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