The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

[droidman]

bjb

Yes, the difference lines going up and down are the
heart of the system.

Looking at the chart above, the pink line is going down
because the total of numbers that have hit exactly once is
going down. Now at spin 34 (edit: i mean spin 37) you bet the group of numbers
that have hit exactly once, and the line crosses down because
one of the numbers you bet has won.

So to explain the needed lines on the chart:

total of numbers with 0 hits (aka "0")
total of numbers that have hit >=1 minus the total of numbers that have hit >1 (aka "1")
total of numbers that have hit >1 (aka ">1")
total of numbers that have hit >1 minus the total of numbers that have hit >2 (aka "2")
total of numbers that have hit >2 (aka ">2")

"3's" aren't all that necessary, you should jump back before looking for
crossings there anyway.

[TwoCatSam]

Here are the "trackables" we need.......

I know I am repeating what droidman just posted, but I like the word "exactly".

Exactly 0
Exactly 1
>1
Exactly 2
>2
Exactly 3
>3

As droidman says, we can do without the Exactly 3 and >3 if you're out of colors.  The other five are really necessary.

Thanks, bj!

Sam

[winkel]

Looking at the chart above, the pink line is going down
because the total of numbers that have hit exactly once is
going down. Now at spin 34 you bet the group of numbers
that have hit exactly once, and the line crosses down because
one of the numbers you bet has won.

Sorry this is not correct.

The pink line is exactly "1".
When it is going down a "2" must go up (and the ">1"-line as well).

This crossing is not a win with a bet on "0"s.
For that the blue line should have gone down at spin 34!!!!!!! But it is equal since several spins.

This would lead us to a higher stage of the game: analysing which group to bet to win on every and each crossing of the lines. but this would confuse too much at this point.

To have a hit at this spin 34 you had have to bet "1"s. At this point TCS would say "Betting when there is no crossing" This crossing can´t be raed from the counting we use at the moment.

br
winkel

[droidman]

Hi winkel

Thanks for the correction. I've edited it
and fixed the mistake.

If we say spin 37 instead of 34, we're still
betting the group of numbers that hit exactly
once. Then the pink line (=1) crosses dark red (>1)
and wins.

[TwoCatSam]

To Whomever is still alive........

I am going through the entire thread (again!) and adding to my repository of "relevant" information.  How I missed this the first time around, I don't know.

In this study, winkel is betting the very first crossing after the 19/18 (0v1) or (0v1+>1) or (0v>0), whichever comes and however you look at it.  Here is his exact wording by him:

QUOTE:

This is a test of 100 permanences.

the result of the first 50 is this:

The results are strictly made by this rules:
played is always only the first crossing after crossing 19-18
played until win
played maximum bet-length (2x or 3x - see above)

19-18proof : this is to show why this cross is not recommended for betting

UNQUOTE

Below is winkel's chart where his profits approach 600u.

Perm   1.Cross   w/l   tot   19-18 proof
1   10N-9F   26   26   win in 2.
2   9N-8F   18   44   win in 2.
3   9N-8F   -9   35   win in 2.
4   11R-10N   25   60   win in 2.
5   11N-10F   25   85   win in 2.
6   11N-10F   -11   74   win in 2.
7   14R-14N   -28   46   win in 2.
8   14R-13N   -14   32   win in 2.
9   15R-14N   -15   17   win in 2.
10   15R-14N   -15   2   win in 2.
11   15R-14N   -15   -13   win in 2.
12   11N-11F   3   -10   win in 1.
13   11N-11F   14   4   win in 1.
14   10N-9F   15   19   win in 2.
15   10N-10F   4   23   win in 1.
16   11N-10F   -22   1   win in 1.
17   11N-10F   -22   -21   win in 1.
18   14R-14N   22   1   win in 1.
19   15R-14N   21   22   win in 1.
20   15R-14N   21   43   win in 1.
21   16R-15N   -32   11   win in 1.
22   15R-14N   21   32   win in 3.
23   15R-14N   6   38   win in 3.
24   15R-14N   6   44   win in 3.
25   15R-15N   6   50   win in 3.
26   15R-15N   6   56   win in 4.
27   16R-15N   4   60   win in 4.
28   16R-15N   4   64   win in 1.
29   16R-15N   20   84   win in 1.
30   16R-16N   20   104   win in 1.
31   17R-16N   2   106   win in 1.
32   17R-16N   19   125   win in 2.
33   17R-16N   19   144   win in 2.
34   17R-16N   19   163   win in 2.
35   17R-16N   19   182   win in 1.
36   17R-16N   19   201   win in 1.
37   17R-16N   19   220   win in 1.
38   17R-16N   -17   203   win in 1.
39   17R-16N   19   222   win in 1.
40   17R-16N   -17   205   win in 1.
41   17R-17N   2   207   win in 1.
42   17R-16N   -17   190   win in 1.
43   16R-15N   20   210   win in 2.
44   16R-15N   20   230   win in 2.
45   16R-15N   20   250   win in 3.
46   16R-15N   20   270   win in 3.
47   16R-16N   20   290   win in 1.
48   16R-16N   20   310   win in 2.
49   17R-16N   19   329   win in 2.
50   17R-17N   19   348   win in 2.
51   17R-17N   19   367   win in 1.
52   18R-17N   18   385   win in 1.
53   18R-18N   18   403   win in 1.
54   18R-18N   18   421   win in 1.
55   18R-18N   -36   385   win in 1.
56   18R-18N   -36   349   win in 1.
57   17R-17N   19   368   win in 4.
58   17R-17N   2   370   win in 1.
59   17R-16N   19   389   win in 1.
60   17R-16N   -17   372   win in 2.
61   17R-16N   -17   355   win in 2.
62   16R-15N   20   375   win in 1.
63   17R-16N   -17   358   win in 1.
64   17R-16N   19   377   win in 2.
65   17R-17N   19   396   win in 2.
66   17R-17N   19   415   win in 1.
67   17R-17N   19   434   win in 1.
68   17R-17N   19   453   win in 1.
69   18R-17N   18   471   win in 1.
70   18R-18N   18   489   win in 1.
71   18R-18N   18   507   win in 1.
72   11R-10F   14   521   win in 1.
73   16R-16N   4   525   win in 1.
74   18R-18N   18   543   win in 1.
75   18R-18N   -36   507   win in 2.
76   11N-11F   1   508   win in 6.
77   16R-15N   -16   492   win in 4.
78   11N-10F   -11   481   win in 2.
79   14R-13N   22   503   win in 2.
80   14R-13N   22   525   win in 2.
81   11N-10F   -33   492   win in 5.
82   11N-10F   -33   459   win in 4.
83   14R-14N   22   481   win in 5.
84   15R-14N   21   502   win in 5.
85   15R-15N   21   523   win in 1.
86   15R-15N   21   544   win in 3.
87   15R-15N   21   565   win in 2.
88   15R-15N   21   586   win in 2.
89   15R-15N   -30   556   win in 3.
90   15R-15N   -30   526   win in 3.
91   15R-15N   -30   496   win in 1.
92   15R-14N   21   517   win in 1.
93   15R-14N   -15   502   win in 1.
94   15R-14N   -15   487   win in 1.

This is an exacting test with no wiggle room.  I will do a test and post first the rules, and then the results.

To the Professor:

winkel...

I understand what you're doing in the above to be this:

1.  Bet the first crossing after the 19/18.
2.  If the crossing disappears after the first bet, stop.
3.  Bet the crossing either two or three times, as permitted by dividing the bet into 36.  17=bet twice  11=bet 3 times.
4.  May I use the same permanence and jump back at the appropriate time, or should I use a new trot?  My numbers are in two pages of 100.  Could I start on the second hundred if I can't jump back?

@Those who have not died of boredom....

Wouldn't it be something if I could replicate winkel's test results? 


Sam

[TwoCatSam]

This is the graphs of winkel's profits:

[TwoCatSam]

winkel

I've done some early testing on this and these questions arose:

1.  Must you absolutely wait for the first crossing to appear?  I am having 1v2 crossings occur before the 0v1.  Must I wait for a 0v1 or can I bet the 1v2?
2.  I had one that was a 0 v 1+2.  It was an 18/19 and it won.  Should I have bet it?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Had some time so I started.  View my sheet, if you will.



There were three instances where the 19/18 did not even form before a 1v2 formed.  I bet for 1v2.

Also, many times I had my second crossing come into sight when the 19/18 won.  Same spin.  Many times.  Is this wrong.

While I won 57u, I am puzzled as to why my crossings are so different than yours.  They should be somewhat the same, I would think.

Sam

[winkel]

Hi TCS,

you can do anything you want. If there´s a crossing: bet on it!

What I tried to proof with that 100spins test:
Normally you start with the first spin of the by testing a strategy. Some say: "Ha, but if you start at spin x or you enter the casino at midnight, what would be there?"
On th other hand I was to proof that there is always a crossing, a crossing [highlight]must appear[/highlight] and it wins more often, than is loses,

So I took a permanence and started at spin 1 played the first crossing but not 19-18.
Then I started with same perm but at spin 2, then at spin 3, then at spin 4 etc.

Any test you do will produce the same results. WIN!

br
winkel

[winkel]

[highlight]Also, many times I had my second crossing come into sight when the 19/18 won.  Same spin.  Many times.  Is this wrong.[/highlight]

This happens when you have 19-17-2
after a win of "0" you get 18-18

You can bet this, but I wouldn´t, because

1 win = +18
1 win+1 loss = [highlight]0[/highlight]
2 losses = -36

I only play crossings where 1 win +1 loss produces a win >0

br
winkel

[TwoCatSam]

winkel

Thanks, Professor.  I think I'm on the right track!

Sam

[Natural9]

what if we have this scenaio

18 14  2 2  can we play this >1 and >2 we could play for 18 spins could we not I have a feeling this would win anyhow

Regards Rodney

[winkel]

I wouldn´t, but: play as long as a trigger is alive

If you look at the tests, you will find many losses either by diing the trigger or not hitting that 4 numbers anymore.

br
winkel

[Tucktuckster]

winkel,

it is good to have you back here.

there are plenty that appreciate the efforts you have done here and it is good that you are here.

[Natural9]

what if we have this scenaio

18 14  2 2  can we play this >1 and >2 we could play for 18 spins could we not I have a feeling this would win anyhow

Regards Rodney

Winkel going on my above example what would be the lowest  number crossing you would be on what about something like 15 11  5 5  would you take the >1 crossing to the >2 column 5 5 would seem like a good bet here but what if it was like 3 3

Regards Rodney

[Natural9]

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