The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

[winkel]

That is my problem, I am never in doubt b/c I don't know what it means to be "in doubt?"

This is really a problem 

let me say it with a joke I read today in the jokes-area: (not word by word)

A good decision is the result of experience. Experiences are the result of bad decisions.

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[TwoCatSam]

Life is a hard teacher; it gives the test first and the lesson afterward.

I had some money and I met a man with experience.  Now he's got the money and I've got the experience!

..or something like that!

Go, winkel!!

[winkel]

coolpaddy to herb in topic "Groupthink"

[highlight]analysis of Winkel's system I have no doubt that you will dazzle us with your expert explaination of why it works.
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this it is:

a strategy can be called "winning" if it wins more than +3 sigma is allowing.

- look at the results of KFS: e.g.

Math predicts somewhere from 1,097,922 to 1,102,990 hits betting 13 numbers 3,132,068 times.
(That's the mathematical average minus and plus NOT breaking the 3SD barrier.)

but due to the house edge every strategy even if it is sigma +12-winner has to fall into the -2,7%

G.U.T is a winning strategy! But why?

at the test we have these results:
1543 bets placed each bet is average 12 units total is 2007 units
put into math is a [highlight]sigma of +3,79[/highlight]

so how long will it win?
or
when will it be under Zero-Level?
or
when is it bound to reach the -2,7% level

look at this table:



if you are exactly at sigma+3
you will reach most possible units to win at bet placed number 6100 and a win of 1970 units
from there it is bound to loose
after 24300 bets placed your back to Zero-Level
from then on you will go straight to -2,7%

the better the strategy the better is the deviation to sigma+3 (G.U.T after 1543 bets is at 2007 units)

conclusion: a test over some millions of spins or bets is senseless.
a test should take notice of the so called longest possible distance to play (this is 24300 bets)
if a strategy is after that amount in a Plus it is the grail.

This is the difference between math-people, dumb knowledge-repeaters, and intelligent players:
- Intelligent Players know how to prolong this distance
- Intelligent Players can multiply the possible win of $ by changing worth of a single unit (MoneyManagement)
- Intelligent Players know when to stop
- Intelligent Players know that they won´t lose because the will not reach the end of longest playable distance

with 50 spins daily and about 10 bets you had to play 2430 days constantly - that´s about 8 years.

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I bet that herb doesn´t know nothing about this higher level of statistics and stochastics and the tools which bend his "rule of -2,7%"

[purple]

One simple question. When you have a crossing or a crossing is about to happen like in:
18,18 or 18,17 , 16,16 or 15, 16 do you bet on the sleepers or the ones that have already shown?

Another thing:
Some of the numbers that have appeared twice are I think prime candidates for repeatin,g so would another method of play be to bet on these for a limited number of spins?

[winkel]

Hi purple,

use your imagination (always)

if we have a crossing 0vs1 17-16

What has to happen that the two lines cross? either 16 has to become 17 or 17 has to become 16. How can this happen? Which group has to have a hit?

The same to TCS and his question in "Brainstorming"

We have three movings in the counting:
1. The "0"s can´t rise they only fall
2. Every line/group that is a sum like ">1" or ">2" they only rise, they cannot fall.

This designs the main crossing: numbers that hit and numbers that didn´t (0vs>0 or 19-18)
all other crossings are of the same nature

3. We have the single numbers "1" or the twice "2"
these lines go up, but as soon as a number belonging to this group hits again it falls. so these lines are climbing and falling and climbing and falling. But at any point all numbers that hit exactly once have hit twice. and later on all numbers that have hit twice have hit three times. that is an additional option that creates us crossings with the Line of (1.) and (2.) several times.

This is leading to the bet-rule: Bet on the falling line.
and: don´t bet on a climbing line
which put together creates this bet-rule: bet on a line (of 3.) only if it has fallen at least once (otherwise it might be still climbing)

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[TwoCatSam]

I totally hosed up on my video today which I know just breaks hearts the world over, BUT, I did salvage this little gem.  I did better today on the G.U.T. than I ever have.

This was a 3 v >3 crossing.  They don't come around often like this, but enough to keep me playing them.

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[TwoCatSam]

All.........

I feel I need to take a break from the G.U.T. for a while.  For one thing, my wife has had a gut full of it.  It is one of the slowest systems I've ever played.  I have spent about ten hours on the computer in the past two days.  No exaggeration.

I'm not giving up on it; I'm shelving it for a time. 

Sam

[winkel]

It is one of the slowest systems I've ever played.

do you wanna know how to fasten it up?

Here it is:
as all numbers are random you can use your previous numbers to start a new game:
Jump back till you have a crossing 19-18 and restart with a new game.

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[JHM]

Winkel a few post above you advice to play 50 spins (1 session per day). Can we play multiple sessions? When I win 20-50 I quit that day. When I make less of loose, sometimes later I would like to start a new session 

[Proofreaders2000]

Regarding GUT:

When I play on a live wheel (Riverbelle) the results have been mixed (for me)
But on an RNG Wheel, I am getting an above average return.

I don't know why, but RNG really likes GUT.  You would think randomness is randomness but this phenomenom has been going on for a while and I can't explain it.

Any remarks on this would be helpful.

[TwoCatSam]

Proof

You could be seeing an anomaly.  Next week RNG might not win a dollar.

Sam

[Kingspin]

I played the gut 10 sessions and came out in  good profit in all sessions played, took me many hours to get an idea what it is all about , still i don't fully understand it as yet but i think this gut theory is one of the best ever posted on here , maybe the best ever system posted so far. Winkel has a  real winner with g.u.t... 
I posted earlier i thought it was a load of rubbish but after testing it quite a lot lately i think i was wrong , the G.U.T  is worth playing with real money no question about it..  I am a sinner as i use progresson with the gut which can make super profit faster than flat betting.  Thanks to winkel and others who have posted on the  G.U.T...

[winkel]

I am a sinner as I use progresson with the gut which can make super profit faster than flat betting.

You will never recover a heavy loss on a progression

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[Tok2Dahand]

I dunno why but GUT seems to be raping me at live on eurogrand...  I just never seem to hit any crossings... at least not often enouh to win.  Downswing has hit nearly 400 units..

I am playing very simple rules the same as winkel in his tests..

I just can't seem to escape the reality that when I am betting 15 numbers, for example, I still only have a 15/37 chance of winning no matter what crossing is due to come up. it just feels like the usual gamblers fallacy.

I don't see how other people can be seeing such good results without it just being luck lol.

I am going to persevere though... I will start to track my sessions and post back results here..

What is the best way to track my results for ease of posting results back here for analysis?

[winkel]

please post just the numbers in the Testing G.U.T-topic and I will check them so you can compare to your bettings

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[winkel]

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