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Started by winkel, August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM

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Natural9

X-ing over mean X-ing over from nought occurrances to one occurrance for a particular number or from 1 appearance to more than one appearance 1 -2 occurances for a particular number

Compa


Natural9


Lohnro

[table=,]Spin,   No,   0x,   1x,  Bet,   
1,   24,   36,   1,   
2,   17,   35,   2,   
3,   36,   34,   3,   
4,   4,   33,   4,   
5,   11,   32,   5,   
6,   19,   31,   6,   
7,   33,   30,   7,   
8,   9,   29,   8,   
9,   11,   29,   7,   
10,   4,   29,   6,   
11,   20,   28,   7,   
12,   17,   28,   6,   
13,   0,   27,   7,   
14,   31,   26,   8,   
15,   1,   25,   9,   
16,   4,   25,   9,   
17,   3,   24,   10,   
18,   34,   23,   11,   
19,   30,   22,   12,   
20,   7,   21,   13,   
21,   14,   20,   14,   
22,   28,   19,   15,   
23,   13,   18,   16,   
24,   21,   17,   17,   bet,
25,   4,   17,   17,   loss-bet,
26,   30,   17,   16,   loss-bet,
27,   7,   17,   15,   loss,
28,   24,   17,   14,   
29,   26,   16,   15,   bet,
30,   35,   15,   16,   win -31,
[/table]

Using Natural9's numbers and to keep this simple, I would take a loss of -31 units and re-track.

Lohnro

Compa, try setting your table like this......

[table=,]Spin,   No,   0x,   1x,
1,   24,   36,   1,
2,   17,   35,   2,
3,   36,   34,   3,
[/table]

The 0x column simply numerically counts backwards from 36 downwards the amount of numbers that are left that have not hit.
The 1x column simply counts the numbers that have hit only once.
eg, after the 1st spin - 24, there are 36 numbers that have not yet hit and one number that has hit once etc....

Once you understand this, then the 2x & 3x makes sense. Hope this helps.

Boo_Ray

What I experienced is that if you win and dont have profit it is still better to reset and retrack..

TwoCatSam

People......

Thanks so much for using the syntax!!  Neat columns!!

Sam

madupz4

Quote from: Boo_Ray on August 31, 2008, 06:50:16 PM
here is my test of around 400 spins  sadly I droped in the end

When you dropped in the end, were you doing anything different?  Were you resetting back 18 or 37 numbers after a win or loss?

Also, during your test of 400 spins, how many triggers did you consistently play?  Just 0 vs. 1 or did you use all of the triggers?

Boo_Ray

I was using triggers between 0 and 1... and ..1 and 2,  reset after win

bjb007

I have posted a new programme in the Members Downloads
area (info in the "Common Sense" department) which is
similar to the GUT.  It's called "Great Square Tester v0.1.

As I don't fully understand the GUT (despite much reading
of all these posts) I'll leave it to those who do understand
to point out any missing bits - if anyone wants to use it
for this system.

Compa

Quote from: Lohnro on September 01, 2008, 06:02:49 AM
Compa, try setting your table like this......

[table=,]Spin,   No,   0x,   1x,
1,   24,   36,   1,
2,   17,   35,   2,
3,   36,   34,   3,
[/table]

The 0x column simply numerically counts backwards from 36 downwards the amount of numbers that are left that have not hit.
The 1x column simply counts the numbers that have hit only once.
eg, after the 1st spin - 24, there are 36 numbers that have not yet hit and one number that has hit once etc....

Once you understand this, then the 2x & 3x makes sense. Hope this helps.

Thanks Master Lohnro!

/Compa

madupz4

Quote from: Boo_Ray on September 01, 2008, 11:16:49 AM
I was using triggers between 0 and 1... and ..1 and 2,  reset after win

More specifically, 2 questions:  1) did you reset back 37 numbers after your first win whether you were into profit or not? and 2) you only used 2 triggers then 0 vs. 1 and 1 vs. 2?

I may have done it a little differently, I went through all 4 different triggers (2x bets per trigger):
0 vs 1
1 vs >1
0 vs >1
1 vs 2

I only reset and tracked new numbers when I finished betting with the 4th and last trigger.  I was able to produce $145 in about 30 minutes with only 3 losses.  Each and every one of these triggers produced consistent wins for me.

Boo_Ray

Quote from: madupz4 on September 01, 2008, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: Boo_Ray on September 01, 2008, 11:16:49 AM
I was using triggers between 0 and 1... and ..1 and 2,  reset after win

More specifically, 2 questions:  1) did you reset back 37 numbers after your first win whether you were into profit or not? and 2) you only used 2 triggers then 0 vs. 1 and 1 vs. 2?

I may have done it a little differently, I went through all 4 different triggers (2x bets per trigger):
0 vs 1
1 vs >1
0 vs >1
1 vs 2

I only reset and tracked new numbers when I finished betting with the 4th and last trigger.  I was able to produce $145 in about 30 minutes with only 3 losses.  Each and every one of these triggers produced consistent wins for me.

After reset I took last 18 numbers and continue to chart

Triggers were 0 vs 1   and  1 vs 2
which comes first

winkel

Quote from: tucktuckster on September 01, 2008, 04:59:25 AM
Winkel,

Here are some of my thoughts based arouns the testing that I have done. Please can you comment on these situations and how you handle.

1) If the 0 v 1 crossing is before spin 25 - It is very dangerous to play. I think maybe best not to.

2) If the 1 v >1 crossing flashes before 0 v 1 - I tend not to play because this is not a normal situation. Often it fails. However - if it continues to appear as a signal it tends to win on 3rd or 4th signal?

3) How do you handle situations where the 0 is 13 and the 1 is 13 and a 1 lands? Does this become a new signal or is it still 2 plays and stop. example below

13 v 13 Signal and bet.
loses as a 1 lands
13 v 12 signal and bet.
loses asa >1 lands.

Is this 2 losses and stop? or do you bet on since you have only had 1 loss at signal 13 v12.

4) In instances where the 0 v 1 crossing is very late - ie 13 v 13 is first flash and it is late on spin 40 or so - I have found results quite poor since numbers >1 seem to be repeating. do you still play or not?

5) If you get a situation after spin 37, where 0 is 14 and 1 is say 15. Then after spin 44 0 is still 14 and 1 falls to 14- you have a signal to bet. it wins. spin 45 becomes 13 for 0 and 15 for 1's. In my experience after such a run of no hits in 0, they tend to hit again. would you replay the 13 expecting another hit?

6) If the 1 v >1 crosses early on - say spin 20 before any other crossing - I will wait and see what happens. If the 1 v >1 runs away and starts being silly such as this
0   1   >1

16  7   14

then I tend to restart

however - if the 1 v >1 is crossed but then corrects - I tend to carry on tracking to see where 0 v 1 is going to cross. If it is around spin 25 to 35, then I proceed and play. is this okay?



hi tuckster,

1) this is correct

imagine we have 18 spins and no repeaters. Here is the first crossing 19-18. If you played EC would you bet the "0" again?

a) if the row continues we will find:
19. 18-19
20. 17-20
21. 16-21
22. 15-22
23. 14-23
24. 13-24
etc.

the chance to get a crossing on 0 vs 1 and on 1 vs >1 is not possible in the next spins.

b) the row ends
19. 19-17-1
20. 19-16-2
21. 19-15-3
22. 19-14-4
23. 19-13-5
24. 19-12-7

the chance to get a crossing on 0 vs 1 and on 1 vs >1 is not possible in the next spins.

by the binomial distribution we should have 19 "0"s at spin 25

2) this is also correct follows the example b)

3)
spin 13-13 trigger
spin 13-12 still trigger
spin 13-11 trigger is dead
spin 12-12 trigger

spin 13-13 trigger
spin 13-13 loss
spin 13-13 loss and stopp
spin 13-12 don´t play
spin 13-11
spin 12-12 trigger

4) If there is no trigger for "0" vs "1" before the 37th spin I restart

5) As you read what is going on this might be a good bet-selection but it is not part of this strategy! Better restart!

6) this is okay. But if the trigger appears after hitting 4 or more times "0" I wouldn´t bet,

br
winkel







winkel

Quote from: madupz4 on September 01, 2008, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: Boo_Ray on September 01, 2008, 11:16:49 AM
I was using triggers between 0 and 1... and ..1 and 2,  reset after win

More specifically, 2 questions:  1) did you reset back 37 numbers after your first win whether you were into profit or not? and 2) you only used 2 triggers then 0 vs. 1 and 1 vs. 2?

I may have done it a little differently, I went through all 4 different triggers (2x bets per trigger):
0 vs 1
1 vs >1
0 vs >1
1 vs 2

I only reset and tracked new numbers when I finished betting with the 4th and last trigger.  I was able to produce $145 in about 30 minutes with only 3 losses.  Each and every one of these triggers produced consistent wins for me.


Hi madupz,

this is as normal as the other opposite examples you can read here. (loss on 17-17, loss on 13-13)
All in All you will win not much but you will win mor often than loose, that´s the Grail in it.

br
winkel

winkel

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