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Started by winkel, August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM

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JHM

Quote from: winkel on October 14, 2008, 07:13:09 PM
@JHM

I refer to this

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bjb007%27s-common-sense-way/crossings-checker-vr2-5/msg24597/#msg24597

imagine you have counted through all 37 possible numbers you will get a row like this:

2 4 3 2 4 5 3 6 7 5 3 3 2 2 2 1 3 5 1 2 3 3 4 2 5 3 6 2 3 7 1 2 1 1 2 3 2

now count all which are >1 (result 32)
now count all which are >2 (result 21)

and you will see the difference

a number that has appeared 3 times hasn´t appeared (exactly) twice anymore
but it still has appeared more than once (>1) and more than twice (>2)

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winkel

Thank you Winkel. I understand, than the example I stated below is right isn't it?

Trail Nr.  0    1   1>   2   2>
1     10  36   1   0     0   0
2     25  35   2   0     0   0
3     10  35   1   1     1   0 Now Nr. 10 has hit 2 times, than it qualifies for 1> it has hit more than once. And 2 because it have hit twice?
4     13  34   2   1     1   0
5     25  34   2   2     2   0 Same situation as above?
6     10  34   2   3     1   1 Now nr 10 has hit more than once, 3 times so in the 1> column we add 1 and it has hit more than twice so we reduce 1 in the 2 column and add 1 in the 2>?  

TwoCatSam

Jur

The way you're playing it is the way I'm playing it, so if you're wrong I want to see the correct answer.  I think you're right.  A number can be exact:

Prosecutor:  "How many times did you beat your wife last month?"

"Two"

"She says four."

"Well I did beat her two times, did I not?"

"OK, dipstick, EXACTLY AND PRECISELY how many times did you beat your wife last month?"

"Four."

"She's so ugly, you should have beat her >four."

"Then I'd be a < a man!!"

Sam

Herb


Just to clarify,

>  This means greater than.

<  This means less than.

> 2 This means greater than two

< 2 This means less than two

Currently, I've noticed that there is a kind of an intentional confusion on the part of Winkel when it comes to the above meanings.  I guess it's value is determined once it's observed as either winning or losing.


JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 15, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
Jur

The way you're playing it is the way I'm playing it, so if you're wrong I want to see the correct answer.  I think you're right.  A number can be exact:

Prosecutor:  "How many times did you beat your wife last month?"

"Two"

"She says four."

"Well I did beat her two times, did I not?"

"OK, dipstick, EXACTLY AND PRECISELY how many times did you beat your wife last month?"

"Four."

"She's so ugly, you should have beat her >four."

"Then I'd be a < a man!!"

Sam

Haha Sam, you crazy roulettecat. One day they will come for you [smiley=3/abduct.gif]

Good to see we think the same. I hope Winkel can confirm.

winkel

Quote from: JHM on October 15, 2008, 02:18:26 PM
Trail Nr.  0    1   1>   2   2>
1     10  36   1   0     0   0
2     25  35   2   0     0   0
3     10  35   1   1     1   0 Now Nr. 10 has hit 2 times, than it qualifies for 1> it has hit more than once. And 2 because it have hit twice?
4     13  34   2   1     1   0
5     25  34   2   2     2   0 Same situation as above?
6     10  34   2   3     1   1 Now nr 10 has hit more than once, 3 times [highlight]so in the 1> column we add 1 and it has hit more than twice so we reduce 1 in the 2 column and add 1 in the 2>? [/highlight] 

No!

Because the 10 is already in the column >1 since it hit twice
It is only new in column >2

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winkel

winkel

Quote from: Herb on October 15, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Currently, I've noticed that there is a kind of an intentional confusion on the part of Winkel when it comes to the above meanings.  I guess it's value is determined once it's observed as either winning or losing.

Please tell me where you did notice this, that I can correct that.

definitely I didn´t use it for claiming a win or winning situation. Because I don´t play with this relation or a column named "<".

If you don´t have arguments please don´t start with grapewines

JHM

Winkel,

Please check my play or see nolinks://img387.imageshack.us/img387/9741/guttest1go5.jpg. I tested on 50 spins from Sam. Did I do something wrong, or did I hit a losing streak?




winkel

pls check

# perm bet total 0 1 >1 2 >2
1 26 36 1 0 0 0
2 26 36 0 1 1 0
3 21 35 1 1 1 0
4 28 34 2 1 1 0
5 29 33 3 1 1 0
6 27 32 4 1 1 0
7 27 32 3 2 2 0
8 5 31 4 2 2 0
9 23 30 5 2 2 0
10 12 29 6 2 2 0
11 13 28 7 2 2 0
12 22 27 8 2 2 0
13 29 27 7 3 3 0
14 0 0 26 8 3 3 0
15 20 0 25 9 3 3 0
16 33 0 24 10 3 3 0
17 0 0 24 9 4 4 0
18 14 0 23 10 4 4 0
19 8 0 22 11 4 4 0
20 5 0 22 10 5 5 0
21 2 0 21 11 5 5 0
22 23 0 21 10 6 6 0
23 17 0 20 11 6 6 0
24 21 0 20 10 7 7 0
25 9 0 19 11 7 7 0
26 32 0 18 12 7 7 0
27 24 0 17 13 7 7 0
28 25 0 16 14 7 7 0
29 26 0 16 14 7 6 1
30 1 0 15 15 7 6 1
31 0 rr -15 15 15 7 5 2
32 28 rr -30 15 14 8 6 2
33 12 -30 15 13 9 7 2
34 8 -30 15 12 10 8 2
35 29 -30 15 12 10 7 3
36 20 -30 15 11 11 8 3
37 0 nr -41 15 11 11 8 3
38 10 nr -52 14 12 11 8 3
39 28 nr -64 14 12 11 7 4
40 15 -64 13 13 11 7 4
41 10 rr -77 13 12 12 8 4
42 6 rr -54 12 13 12 8 4
43 1 nr -31 12 12 13 9 4
44 5 rr -43 12 12 13 8 5
45 12 rr -55 12 12 13 7 6
46 28 rr -67 12 12 13 7 6
47 11 -67 11 13 13 7 6
48 18 nr -80 10 14 13 7 6
49 7 nr -94 9 15 13 7 6
50 8 fr -65 9 15 13 6 7

TwoCatSam


JHM

Quote from: winkel on October 15, 2008, 05:26:01 PM
pls check

# perm bet total 0 1 >1 2 >2
1 26 36 1 0 0 0
2 26 36 0 1 1 0
3 21 35 1 1 1 0
4 28 34 2 1 1 0
5 29 33 3 1 1 0
6 27 32 4 1 1 0
7 27 32 3 2 2 0
8 5 31 4 2 2 0
9 23 30 5 2 2 0
10 12 29 6 2 2 0
11 13 28 7 2 2 0
12 22 27 8 2 2 0
13 29 27 7 3 3 0
14 0 0 26 8 3 3 0
15 20 0 25 9 3 3 0
16 33 0 24 10 3 3 0
17 0 0 24 9 4 4 0
18 14 0 23 10 4 4 0
19 8 0 22 11 4 4 0
20 5 0 22 10 5 5 0
21 2 0 21 11 5 5 0
22 23 0 21 10 6 6 0
23 17 0 20 11 6 6 0
24 21 0 20 10 7 7 0
25 9 0 19 11 7 7 0
26 32 0 18 12 7 7 0
27 24 0 17 13 7 7 0
28 25 0 16 14 7 7 0
29 26 0 16 14 7 6 1
30 1 0 15 15 7 6 1
31 0 rr -15 15 15 7 5 2
32 28 rr -30 15 14 8 6 2
33 12 -30 15 13 9 7 2
34 8 -30 15 12 10 8 2
35 29 -30 15 12 10 7 3
36 20 -30 15 11 11 8 3
37 0 nr -41 15 11 11 8 3
38 10 nr -52 14 12 11 8 3
39 28 nr -64 14 12 11 7 4
40 15 -64 13 13 11 7 4
41 10 rr -77 13 12 12 8 4
42 6 rr -54 12 13 12 8 4
43 1 nr -31 12 12 13 9 4
44 5 rr -43 12 12 13 8 5
45 12 rr -55 12 12 13 7 6
46 28 rr -67 12 12 13 7 6
47 11 -67 11 13 13 7 6
48 18 nr -80 10 14 13 7 6
49 7 nr -94 9 15 13 7 6
50 8 fr -65 9 15 13 6 7


I see. My counting was right from spin 1 to 37 went good. Than I reduced one where I had to add one. My focus went off. I see you made a lot of loosing bets to. Do you think this was a rare losing streak? Lot of losers and no winners?

Good news: I understand the counting
Bad news: I still don't control the betting situations.
Question on the betting: in spin 31 you say -15 and than spin 32 to 36 you say -30. Why -30 do you double up once after a loss? Please explain.

I'm getting closer everytime.


JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 15, 2008, 05:27:57 PM
Jur

We both got it wrong!

Sam

Yes, but no we know how do do it right. Don't we Sam. Better I counted good the first 37. Than I reduced by one where I had to add one, bad concentration I think.

Sam offtopic question. I'm working with your spins (WJL). You mark 1-100. 1 is the oldest and 100 the newest spin right? If not I did the count from fresh to old. That would not be correct.

TwoCatSam

Jur

There are usually 200 or more spins per trot.  The oldest number is 1 of page 1 and the newest is 100 of page 2.  Those 200 numbers are consecutive.  Sometimes on the right side of page two are a few extras just to make sure I got to 5,000. 

I double checked these numbers as I wrote them down.  I'm sure there is an error somewhere, but very few.  Extremely few.

Sam

JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 15, 2008, 06:23:13 PM
Jur

There are usually 200 or more spins per trot.  The oldest number is 1 of page 1 and the newest is 100 of page 2.  Those 200 numbers are consecutive.  Sometimes on the right side of page two are a few extras just to make sure I got to 5,000. 

I double checked these numbers as I wrote them down.  I'm sure there is an error somewhere, but very few.  Extremely few.

Sam

Good to hear Sam. I tested WJL 8-4-8 P1 spin 1-50 and 51-100. 2 sessions.

winkel

Quote from: JHM on October 15, 2008, 05:47:23 PM
I see you made a lot of loosing bets to. Do you think this was a rare losing streak? Lot of losers and no winners?

Good news: I understand the counting
Bad news: I still don't control the betting situations.
Question on the betting: in spin 31 you say -15 and than spin 32 to 36 you say -30. Why -30 do you double up once after a loss? Please explain.

I'm getting closer everytime.



I always said: There are loosing streaks, thats the game. Look at the testings.

If you miss a crossing or you make a bet when you shouldn´t: don´t mind. The mix will build a positiv result.

There is only the "total" listed not the LW of the single bet.

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winkel

TwoCatSam

Well, I've got 5,000 spins and I'm getting pretty salty at using a ten key, so I'll just keep on testing for a while. 

Ben Franklin said, "Experience is a dear school, but a fool will learn no other."

I guess I am one of the fools who simply must learn from personal experience. 

You can bet your sweet bippy I'll wager Monopoly money!

Sam

TwoCatSam

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