The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

[JHM]

This Sunday morning, before the c**k croweth thrice, I tried the G.U.T.

I doubled my bankroll.  Yeppers.  Doubled.

Hit every stinkin' crossing to a profit.  Didn't hit every bet but did not miss three in a row.  Did miss one I should have had when I bet 28 instead of 29.  My point:  Could I be this lucky?  On Sunday?  Playin' the Devil's game before Church?  Naaaaaaa

Screen shots of 1 v 2 and 3 vs >3.
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Samster

Sam,

I think you had a lot of luck. Winkel says don't play any crossings until the 0 has reached 19 or lower (18, 17, etc.).  And you should never bet more that 17 on a crossing.

Simply:

Wait until 0 passes 19 or lower. Than bet crosses.
Don't bet more than 17 units (crossings higher than 17).

Hope this helps.

[hoper35]

Way to go, Sam!   

Guess I'm going to have to look into the GUT.
I've only doubled my BR once in two years with my methods.

Ron.

[TwoCatSam]

hoper

You must understand my bankroll was only $60 when I started.  I went to around $119 before I quit.  This was before the first "jump back".  I quit then and went back to bed.

Sam

[hoper35]

I have checked the first 50 spins for my main table from last night.

Would have been 3 betting opportunities with GUT with a win on the first spin for all 3.

In comparison, I was down about 100 units with my bets.

Ron.

[See_Jerek]

This Sunday morning, before the c**k croweth thrice, I tried the G.U.T.

I doubled my bankroll.  Yeppers.  Doubled.

Hit every stinkin' crossing to a profit.  Didn't hit every bet but did not miss three in a row.  Did miss one I should have had when I bet 28 instead of 29.  My point:  Could I be this lucky?  On Sunday?  Playin' the Devil's game before Church?  Naaaaaaa

Screen shots of 1 v 2 and 3 vs >3.
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Samster

Sam,

I think you had a lot of luck. Winkel says don't play any crossings until the 0 has reached 19 or lower (18, 17, etc.).  And you should never bet more that 17 on a crossing.

Simply:

Wait until 0 passes 19 or lower. Than bet crosses.
Don't bet more than 17 units (crossings higher than 17).

Hope this helps.

you are going to love this mate,flat bets.I know you love them,so do I[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[See_Jerek]

@ ALL,

Please make sure you read all of the content of this thread. There are over 50 pages. Many will be repitition and maybe silly posts. But there is an immense amount of very useful data here.

I am playing a variation of Winkels GUT now which is delivering very nice results on RNG. All you need to do is to read all of this thread and practice. Everyone that does seems to play it in a slightly different way but win.....

Please Read all of the posts

Hi Tuckster,

what really took me by surprise is it works with RNG.I never believe in RNG,never play them as well,always have the impression that they are cheating or they are rigged.

[TwoCatSam]

Jur

When I said I bet "all crossings" that was misleading.  What I should have said was that I bet all crossings as instructed by winkel.

I never bet the 19/18.

Check out my post today in "Testing".

Sam

[winkel]

Hi friends and enemies,

I have a big problem. I know it is working, but I can´t explain it properly.

Why? 2 reasons: 1. my english is not good enough. 2. I´m ill and my brains are influenced by meds.

sometimes I write things meaning the right, but expressing it wrong. Sorry for that especially for upsetting KFS.

I try a very last time an explanation.

e.g. we play a crossing 10-10
as KFS proofed this will end up with a result of -2,7%. That´s true and okay.
I said in one of my early posts: this has to be otherwise I wouldn´t be able to win.
How can this be put together?

look:
we start playing this crossing and play it 20 times. By luck we win 10 bets. 5 bets are won by the second 10 and 5 are won by the other 17 numbers not involved in 10-10.

let´s put a math on it:
20 bets 10 units = 200 units bet
10 wins 36 units = 360 units return
total: +160 units

we should have 10/37 of 20 wins to be in the laws of statistics: that would be 27% of 20 or 5-6 bets.

we are now ahead 4-5 bets to the average!!!!!!!

conclusion: our bet is bound to fullfill the limit of -2,7%, therefore our bet has to lose in the upcoming crossings "more often" than it is allowed (due to the average)

or: we are always in situations where [highlight]we win more often than we lose[/highlight] or [highlight]lose more often than we win[/highlight].


but we don´t play only this crossing 10-10
we are also playing 17-17 (or any other)

to lose: 17-17 + 10-10 have to be in a downswing
to be equal: 17-17 + 10-10 win and lose alternating
to win: 17-17 +10-10 win both

Now you need very much imagination:
Because we play [highlight]all possible crossings[/highlight] in the short run the chance to hit losing streaks of all bet crossings is rare.


experiences:
as we play we notice 10-10 in a upswing wining and wining. we don´t mind betting it
as we play we notice 17-17 in a downswing losing. we don´t play it till we notice a turnaround.

These up- and downswings are permanently in action, because they have to be:
Imagine we bet 10 only once and lose: it is statistically definetly behind it´s average, isn´t it. (or vice-versa)
every win or every loss is dragging it away from the limit -2,7%, where it has to be.

To be aware of these wavings, the rule of -2,7% has to be fulfilled in the long run. Otherwise we could be sure of an endless winning- or losing-streak, which both would be easy to see and to bet or to be bet opposite.

Now this constrction works in a single crossing as well:
10-10 at spin 15 is waving up
10-10 at spin 30 is waving down

10-10 on 0vs1 is waving down
10-10 on 2vs3 is waving up

if we put all 10-10 together despite where it appeared and despite on which groups it appears, if we have enough trials the will add up at -2,7%.  but on their way to lose we can see them losing and stop betting them.

If we lose here we will win there. In the short run we win more than we lose, despite all-in-all it ends up at -2,7%. A contradiction but it works.

I didn´t give all facts but I hope you can see what´s the point if you use your imagination.

br
winkel

[See_Jerek]

Hi Winkel,

Are you really ill?Please no jokes about this,I am concern about your well being

[TwoCatSam]

Dear winkel

Brother, I have your back!  I'm growing more and more proficient on your G.U.T. daily!! 

Watch my videos!  I've moved from $60 to 205.5 playing .50 per number.  No progression/FLAT BET!!

Take care of your self.

Dare we ask your afflicition?  Shall we pray for you?

Sam

[madupz4]

Dear winkel

Brother, I have your back!  I'm growing more and more proficient on your G.U.T. daily!! 

Watch my videos!  I've moved from $60 to 205.5 playing .50 per number.  No progression/FLAT BET!!

Take care of your self.

Dare we ask your afflicition?  Shall we pray for you?

Sam

Sam

I would like to be able to duplicate your success:

2 questions: 

1) Are you playing ALL possible crossings or are you using "judgement" to bet on some crossings and not others based on what is going on and looking at the trends?

2) Would you mind listing each and every one of the crossings you are playing on the track3 software?  What are the crossings you are NOT playing?  (for example, I think you wrote previously that 0vs.>1 is not one of the crossings you play)

After I receive this information from you, I will start my own testing to see how it compares to your results.

Thanks,

E.M.

[TwoCatSam]

mad

I will help you in any way I can.  I do NOT use judgment of any sort.  I have pumped a little bankroll from $60 to $205.5 using .50 bets.

I bet:

0 v 1
0 v >1.......even though I don't agree with it.  It wins.
1 v 2
1 v >2.....ditto above
2 v 3
2 v >3...ditto above
3 v >3

The ONLY crossing I do not play is 0 v >0 as this can only be 19/18.

Please go to the testing area and view my ten-minute videos.  You will see the cursor identify my crossing.  Please note that I have hit several numbers when only three chips were down and once on the 7 all alone!!  Straight up single number!!

The jump back is vital.  Do not think you have to wait for numbers to be added.  When you jump you may have a 2 v 3 right off the bat and they hit!  Do not be afraid to bet the small numbers.  I bet two crossings at once many times.  Some crossings are only 3 to 6 numbers and they hit!

I am doing my best NOT to tweak his system, but to play it by the rules.  Yet, what works for me works for me!!

Going to double my bet from .50 to 1.00.  WoooHooo  Big Spender!!

Sam

[JHM]

Jur

When I said I bet "all crossings" that was misleading.  What I should have said was that I bet all crossings as instructed by winkel.

I never bet the 19/18.

Check out my post today in "Testing".

Sam

Sam,

Good to read, and even better that you are winning.

[Proofreaders2000]

@ Winkel:

You have made numerous contributions to roulette and to VLS.  I'll be praying for your swift recovery. Who knows? GUT 2.0?  --PR

[madupz4]

mad

I will help you in any way I can.  I do NOT use judgment of any sort.  I have pumped a little bankroll from $60 to $205.5 using .50 bets.

I bet:

0 v 1
0 v >1.......even though I don't agree with it.  It wins.
1 v 2
1 v >2.....ditto above
2 v 3
2 v >3...ditto above
3 v >3

The ONLY crossing I do not play is 0 v >0 as this can only be 19/18.

Please go to the testing area and view my ten-minute videos.  You will see the cursor identify my crossing.  Please note that I have hit several numbers when only three chips were down and once on the 7 all alone!!  Straight up single number!!

The jump back is vital.  Do not think you have to wait for numbers to be added.  When you jump you may have a 2 v 3 right off the bat and they hit!  Do not be afraid to bet the small numbers.  I bet two crossings at once many times.  Some crossings are only 3 to 6 numbers and they hit!

I am doing my best NOT to tweak his system, but to play it by the rules.  Yet, what works for me works for me!!

Going to double my bet from .50 to 1.00.  WoooHooo  Big Spender!!

Sam

TCS,

Thanks for the info.

One more follow up question with regards to the jump back:  What are the rules you follow for the jump back?  At what spin number do you jump back or what is it based on?

Also, to be clear:  When you say "jump back" you are referring to entering "-1" on the track3 software to jump back 18 numbers correct?  You are not starting over from scratch at 37 correct?

Once i'm clear, I will begin testing on RNG!

Thanks,

E.M.

[madupz4]

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