Lohnro's Double Street System

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Sam,

I am doing this with a spreadsheet, and very methodically (if that is such a word!).

If I get a progression loss, I double up until I recover. It recovers pretty quick, so that's a good thing. Another great thing is that the lowest drawdown I have had yet in these 1,200+ spins has been 150 units, which is sick. I would say that is pretty strong. Plus 400 units up and lowest DD has been 150. Not a bad ROI, even if it is slow and grinding. The good news is that if you happen to be playing a $10 unit (which many wheels at live casinos require), you would pretty much assure yourself of $3 or so per spin.

Keith

I would like to see a copy of your spreadsheet Keith?

Hi Lohnro - would be glad to send it over to you. Keep in mind, all I keep is records of my previous sessions, I don't show my workings out of previous sessions, just the last session that I used. But you are more than welcome to take a look.

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im playing a variation on this.

results from first test is +183 from 258 spins.

i have a spreadsheet. on a win, I do not wait 18 spins, I just take the last 18 numbers. if a loss happens - I stop altogether for 18 spins and then start again.

i didnt have progressions when I tested, so I used my own based on what is logical. 12 spins 1 set, 6 with 2. If 3 sets have 2 hits then no play possible, wait for it to be 2 or 1.

the maths on this is that you should lose around 1 in 10 progressions. so losses should not be plentiful and most should be recovered by the doubling up recovery session which should win quick enough before next loss.

i am waiting to see a session from hell, but I am thinking that things come in waves, so by playing non stop and then on a loss waiting 18 spins to break cycle and restart at a different point, you might be joining a different wave so hopefully will provide a safeguard.

in case last bit doesnt make sense - imagine the LnolinksLnolinksLnolinksL scenario. its a wave. however - a w may be a progreesion of 6 bets before the w happens. in those 6 bets, the double street you are betting on may drop to 1 hit in last 12 and a different ds will move to 2. so by being in virtual mode, you start betting on a different ds which could be on a different wave. If you are on a winning wave, you want to carry on and ride it. and if it loses, you want to catch another wave and see. Its just a bummer that you dont know the wave until you are on it. But the maths is that each wave will lose 1 in 10. and randomness says losses will sometimes be gouped. therefore it could pay to be on a different wave and hope for the best.

tuck

Yes! That is what I was thinking too. The flushing out effect I have found very effective. And so far, I am finding better than 1 in 10 for a loss. More like 1 in 15. I would also be inclined to think that if you get a long streak of 30 winning progressions in a row, you might want to start with the 18=spin waiting period once you get a loss. Or maybe time to get out altogether with all wins in tact.

When I recovered the one loss in my last session, it only took 4 winning progressions to recover my loss. Now, granted, it was a double-up like I suggested before, but even so, that's great recovery time. Enough to get back to where I was and absorb another loss IF it comes back around.

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oo question here.. if after 18 spins you get more than 2 ds's which qualify, do you play all of them, or carry on until there are 2 left?

Cheers

Hammy jr (the 2nd)

Hey Hammy jr (the 2nd),

This is a no bet situation for me, I re-track as described.

I agree...what I do here is take the previous 12 spins and then track 6 new spins to see if a play comes out that time. I have seen situations where I have 20 or more spins without betting because there is a no-bet situation of either:

(1) More than 2 DS qualifying with 2 hits each; or
(2) NO DS qualifying with 2 wins

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Again, here is another 436 spins:

HI: +241 units

LO: -9 units

End: +192 units (I had JUST had a loss as the session ended!  )

Wins: 47, Losses: 2

Winning percentage: 95.92%.

This is the best winning percentage yet. Again, this brings it up to 1 loss in 15 progressions or so. This makes recoveries that much better. I would say that if you were to lose 2 progressions in a row, or very quickly, I would probably go to another table and start your recovery from there.

Still working at about 0.35 UPS, which isn't as much as some would like, but if you are GUARANTEED 0.35 unit per spin, that's better than losing, right?

I have YET to see a drawdown of 150 units although I am sure that it can and will happen at some point. But through 2,000 spins, this is going well.

And about the 0.35 UPS win rate, if you were playing $100 units (yeah right!! lol), you would be getting $35 per spin! Just 1,200 spins or so and you will be paying cash for a NICE new car!

[Boo_Ray]

what do we do with zero, do we completely ignore it or take it as one spin and no line hitted?

[TwoCatSam]

Sam - with the single line progression, I would go from 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-6-8-10 to 2-2-4-4-6-6-8-8-10-12-16-20

For the double line progression, I would go from 1 1 - 2 2 - 3 3 - 4 4 - 6 6 - 9 9 to 2 2 - 4 4 - 6 6 - 8 8 - 12 12 - 18 18  Keith replied.

OK, thanks, I copied that to Word for safekeeping.

I don't wish to step on any toes; everyone should (I guess) tweak to their hearts content--but I would like to take a swing at it just as Lohnro wrote it.

Correct me L if I am wrong:

collect a group of 6
collect a second group of 6
collect a third group of 6

If in those three groups you have one or two double streets with only two hits each (not one; not three) you bet that one or two double streets using the progression.  When you get a hit you scratch off the first six and the number which was your winner becomes number one of your new "third six" and you begin your search again.   

Is the maroon part right?

Question:  What if you did not get a bet during your first 18 numbers?  Do you scratch the first six and keep on looking?  Or do you scratch the first number of the first six and check one-by-one.  Or scrap the whole trot and seek a new 18?

Lord, you talk about something that begs for a little tracking program.............

Sam

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what do we do with zero, do we completely ignore it or take it as one spin and no line hitted?

I ignore it completely.

[cps10]

Correct me L if I am wrong:

collect a group of 6
collect a second group of 6
collect a third group of 6

If in those three groups you have one or two double streets with only two hits each (not one; not three) you bet that one or two double streets using the progression.  When you get a hit you scratch off the first six and the number which was your winner becomes number one of your new "third six" and you begin your search again.   

Is the maroon part right?

I think so. I am playing it slighly different I think.

Question:  What if you did not get a bet during your first 18 numbers?  Do you scratch the first six and keep on looking?  Or do you scratch the first number of the first six and check one-by-one.  Or scrap the whole trot and seek a new 18?

What I do is scratch the first six numbers, and add another set of 6 and start from there. I don't see a problem with 1-by-1 either.

Lord, you talk about something that begs for a little tracking program.............

Sam

Sam - please see in red for my responses.

[TwoCatSam]

Keith

Your format works very well! 

I'll watch this thread and test sometime down the road.

Sam

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Again, here is another 430 spins:

HI: +158 units

LO: -56 units

End: +122 units (I had JUST had a loss as the session ended!   )

Wins: 41, Losses: 4

Winning percentage: 91.11%.

This is the lowest win percentage I have seen thus far. So, 1 in 11 loses? Not bad at all if you ask me!

Overall, through 2,488 spins, there is a +822 balance (and my high bankroll I suggested was 350 units), so you would have to go through all 3 progressions without ONE WIN to lose 350 units, so that would have to happen twice. I can't see that happening. Well, at least not now! LOL

It's about a 0.33 UPS, which isn't bad either.

It has 237 wins vs. 17 losses (93.31% win percentage) or about a loss every 14.94 progressions.

Again, 150 units is about the highest drawdown I've seen thus far.

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Another 408 spins:

HI: +99 units

LO: -49 units

End: +16 units (I had JUST had a loss as the session ended and was working on recovery)

Wins: 30, Losses: 3

Winning percentage: 90.91%.

This is the lowest win percentage I have seen thus far. Again, 1 in 11 loses? Not bad at all if you ask me!

This was a rough session. Had many dry spells where there would be no betting, and it seemed that this group of numbers was choppy at best. But it still pulled through and won money. Applying the MM 50% method would have your wins locked up early (around 88 spins).

This has been a homerun through nearly 3,000 spins thus far. 7 groups of spins with no session losses.

[MattyMattz]

CPS,

I'm going to run some tests and play it the same way you did.  Seeing how I'm the only one to post a bad session, maybe your way would have worked better.  I'll keep you posted.

MM

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Matty,

I just had a bust-out session. I stopped it at losing through the 3rd progression. Here are the stats:

Spins: 363

Hi: +150 units

Lo: -198 units

End: -198 units

Wins: 30, Losses: 5

Winning percentage: 85.71%

This was a bad one. Of course, the stop-win is the key. At any rate, this looks good so far. I still think it's a "go".

[Compa]

HEEEEEEEEEY !!! This was the first system i made a good load of money of One of the best i ever played. Highly recommended. I might as well answer the Q that i know going to come up...."Why did i stop playing it"?...I got greedyy,, LMAO...

Cheers
/Compa

[ChickenDinner]

Sam mate,
For tracking, use Kon-Fu-Sed's alert tracker. It constantly tells you how ever many double streets, (or what ever you want) has hit it in the last 18 spins, or in how many spins you specify. You don't need to track back, it does it for you. It's f'ing brilliant! Thanks KFS!!!

It's on this site for download somewhere - I can't remember where though. If you can't find let me know & I'll upload for you.

This is still winning very welll for me 

I'm playing 1 line for 18 spins & 2 for 9. NOt sure what's the best way to play it yet, but this seems to be working very well. I've only lost once in about 400 spins. I'll keep playing. Oh yeah, I like the idea of waiting for 18 spins after a loss, or even going into virtual & start betting again as soon as it starts hitting and a line qualifies.

CD

[ChickenDinner]

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