Testing G.U.T

[winkel]

Touchbet

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Coups Permanenz R N F Rr Nr Fr lfd. Saldo R N F F2 F3
1 28 36 1 0 0 0
2 19 35 2 0 0 0
3 20 34 3 0 0 0
4 35 33 4 0 0 0
5 18 32 5 0 0 0
6 23 31 6 0 0 0
7 32 30 7 0 0 0
8 1 29 8 0 0 0
9 33 28 9 0 0 0
10 16 27 10 0 0 0
11 25 26 11 0 0 0
12 29 25 12 0 0 0
13 14 24 13 0 0 0
14 35 0 24 12 1 1 0
15 35 0 24 12 1 0 1
16 35 0 24 12 1 0 1
17 24 0 23 13 1 0 1
18 12 0 22 14 1 0 1
19 29 0 22 13 2 1 1
20 36 0 21 14 2 1 1
21 22 0 20 15 2 1 1
22 29 0 20 15 2 0 2
23 23 0 20 14 3 1 2
24 28 0 20 13 4 2 2
25 22 0 20 12 5 3 2
26 32 0 20 11 6 4 2
27 9 0 19 12 6 4 2
28 3 0 18 13 6 4 2
29 23 0 18 13 6 3 3
30 15 0 17 14 6 3 3
31 9 0 17 13 7 4 3
32 34 0 16 14 7 4 3
33 12 0 16 13 8 5 3
34 33 0 16 12 9 6 3
35 3 0 16 11 10 7 3
36 33 nr -11 16 11 10 6 4
37 36 nr 14 16 10 11 7 4
38 10 14 15 11 11 7 4
39 3 nr 3 15 11 11 6 5
40 5 nr -8 14 12 11 6 5
41 26 nr -20 13 13 11 6 5
42 15 rr -33 13 12 12 7 5
43 26 rr -46 13 11 13 8 5
44 15 rr -59 13 11 13 7 6
45 23 rr -72 13 11 13 7 6
46 20 -72 13 10 14 8 6
47 14 -72 13 9 15 9 6
48 15 nr -81 13 9 15 9 6
49 7 nr -90 12 10 15 9 6
50 25 nr -64 12 9 16 10 6


Live

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Coups Permanenz R N F Rr Nr Fr lfd. Saldo R N F F2 F3
1 8 36 1 0 0 0
2 29 35 2 0 0 0
3 2 34 3 0 0 0
4 27 33 4 0 0 0
5 6 32 5 0 0 0
6 28 31 6 0 0 0
7 10 30 7 0 0 0
8 6 30 6 1 1 0
9 15 29 7 1 1 0
10 21 28 8 1 1 0
11 6 28 8 1 0 1
12 3 27 9 1 0 1
13 8 27 8 2 1 1
14 1 0 26 9 2 1 1
15 2 0 26 8 3 2 1
16 27 0 26 7 4 3 1
17 27 0 26 7 4 2 2
18 0 0 25 8 4 2 2
19 25 0 24 9 4 2 2
20 17 0 23 10 4 2 2
21 32 0 22 11 4 2 2
22 1 0 22 10 5 3 2
23 33 0 21 11 5 3 2
24 5 0 20 12 5 3 2
25 29 0 20 11 6 4 2
26 18 0 19 12 6 4 2
27 6 0 19 12 6 4 2
28 2 0 19 12 6 3 3
29 20 0 18 13 6 3 3
30 10 0 18 12 7 4 3
31 30 0 17 13 7 4 3
32 25 0 17 12 8 5 3
33 6 0 17 12 8 5 3
34 24 0 16 13 8 5 3
35 4 0 15 14 8 5 3
36 5 rr -15 15 13 9 6 3
37 13 -15 14 14 9 6 3
38 20 rr -29 14 13 10 7 3
39 1 rr -43 14 13 10 6 4
40 12 -43 13 14 10 6 4
41 31 -43 12 15 10 6 4
42 29 -43 12 15 10 5 5
43 31 -43 12 14 11 6 5
44 5 rr -55 12 14 11 5 6
45 30 rr -67 12 13 12 6 6
46 3 rr -79 12 12 13 7 6
47 9 -79 11 13 13 7 6
48 31 nr -92 11 13 13 6 7
49 12 nr -69 11 12 14 7 7
50 23 -69 10 13 14 7 7


RNG

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Coups Permanenz R N F Rr Nr Fr lfd. Saldo R N F F2 F3
1 7 36 1 0 0 0
2 13 35 2 0 0 0
3 17 34 3 0 0 0
4 22 33 4 0 0 0
5 11 32 5 0 0 0
6 10 31 6 0 0 0
7 7 31 5 1 1 0
8 25 30 6 1 1 0
9 3 29 7 1 1 0
10 20 28 8 1 1 0
11 6 27 9 1 1 0
12 26 26 10 1 1 0
13 18 25 11 1 1 0
14 24 0 24 12 1 1 0
15 12 0 23 13 1 1 0
16 17 0 23 12 2 2 0
17 0 0 22 13 2 2 0
18 15 0 21 14 2 2 0
19 9 0 20 15 2 2 0
20 4 0 19 16 2 2 0
21 8 0 18 17 2 2 0
22 21 0 17 18 2 2 0
23 3 0 17 17 3 3 0
24 21 rr -17 17 16 4 4 0
25 29 rr 2 16 17 4 4 0
26 4 2 16 16 5 5 0
27 24 rr -14 16 15 6 6 0
28 19 rr 6 15 16 6 6 0
29 14 6 14 17 6 6 0
30 22 6 14 16 7 7 0
31 30 6 13 17 7 7 0
32 31 6 12 18 7 7 0
33 29 6 12 17 8 8 0
34 15 6 12 16 9 9 0
35 13 6 12 15 10 10 0
36 6 6 12 14 11 11 0
37 21 rr -6 12 14 11 10 1
38 6 rr -18 12 14 11 9 2
39 30 rr -30 12 13 12 10 2
40 26 nr -7 12 12 13 11 2
41 21 rr -19 12 12 13 11 2
42 2 rr 5 11 13 13 11 2
43 21 nr -8 11 13 13 11 2
44 9 nr 15 11 12 14 12 2
45 4 nr 3 11 12 14 11 3
46 6 nr -9 11 12 14 11 3
47 12 nr 15 11 11 15 12 3
48 27 nr 8 10 12 15 12 3
49 3 nr 1 10 12 15 11 4
50 34 nr -6 9 13 15 11 4


[table=,]
Day   ,   RNG   ,   Touchbet   ,   Live   ,   tot
all   ,   301   ,   -166   ,   441   ,   576
1   ,   -32   ,   37   ,   55   ,   60
2   ,   -17   ,   77   ,   -26   ,   34
3   ,   59   ,   -43   ,   -22   ,   -6
4   ,   21   ,   -31   ,   -1   ,   -11
5   ,   5   ,   -14   ,   -16   ,   -25
6   ,   47   ,   84   ,   15   ,   146
7   ,   -6   ,   -79   ,   71   ,   -14
8   ,   -10   ,   -13   ,   -2   ,   -25
9   ,   -45   ,   -30   ,   2   ,   -73
10   ,   26   ,   81   ,   -49   ,   58
11   ,   -3   ,   -9   ,   153   ,   141
12   ,   17   ,   37   ,   25   ,   79
13   ,   6   ,   -33   ,   56   ,   29
14   ,   4   ,   -107   ,   110   ,   7
15   ,   113   ,   5   ,   3   ,   121
16   ,   22   ,   -59   ,   2   ,   -35
17   ,   41   ,   30   ,   26   ,   97
18   ,   59   ,   -30   ,   103   ,   132
19   ,   -6   ,   -69   ,   -64   ,   -139

[/table]

[Lohnro]

Try this excel worksheet for testing GUT. Let me know if there is any problems?

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=188

Cheers,

[ernesto]

Thanks Lohnro, nice work!

ernesto

[ernesto]

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Coups Permanenz R N F Rr Nr Fr lfd. Saldo R N F F2 F3
41 12 41 13 14 10 7 3
42 25 41 13 14 10 6 4
43 23 41 13 14 10 5 5
44 28 fr 72 13 14 10 4 6
45 6 72 12 15 10 4 6
46 24 72 11 16 10 4 6
47 10 72 11 15 11 5 6
48 24 rr 61 11 14 12 6 6
49 26 61 11 13 13 7 6
50 5 nr 84 11 12 14 8 6


Winkel

1. At spin #42 you play 5-5. Can I play the same trigger at spin #48 6-6. Because there is no other trigger.

2. At spin #49 can I use the 7-6 insted of 13-13? Now the 7-6 are loosing, but maybe next time the 13-13 loose and the 7-6 win?
What is your advice?

ernesto

[winkel]

1. I wouldn´t have played this one. I just did it, because the TestRule is: every trigger

2. If there are two triggers you can bet any of it.
If the trigger is high=13 it has a better chance to hit
If a trigger is low=7 you can bet 5 times instead of 2 times


You shouldn´t try to find a reason why a trigger hits or not. There´s no one.
It is roulette: everything can happen.
But if there´s a crossing it hits more often than it loses.
If there are 2 crossings and you are not sure, don´t bet
If you´re in doubt, just jump back and try to find a clear crossing.

br
winkel

[Boo_Ray]

32 spins
+49 units

[TwoCatSam]

TopMan wrote:

0 vs >1 is possible bet too.

Another way of saying that is: 0 vs 2 and above.  Or 0 vs =>2

Again I pose this question:  If you have, say, 10 of 0 and 9 of >1 and one of the 0s hit, how will you have a crossing?  After the hit, you will have 9 0s and an additional 1.  The >1s will stay the same.

You cannot move from 0 to >1; you can only move from 0 to 1.

This thing has driven me out of my tree!

Sam

[winkel]

You cannot move from 0 to >1; you can only move from 0 to 1.

This thing has driven me out of my tree!

and from 1 to two and from 2 to 3

That is the law this is based on.

That 1 is to cross 2 therefore 1 has to fall or 2 has to rise

look at the diagram: at that point 2 are still in the move to rise
0 cannot rise they have to fall

br
winkel

[ernesto]

Hi Sam!

You talking about this?

        0x   1x   >1x
35    10   14     9

In this situation we can bet on 0 vs >1.
We bet on 0 vs >1, we bet on all unhit numbers from 0s.
The next spin come from 0s. So look like this

        0x   1x   >1x
18    9     14     9

We win, but when you see this on the graph you just see the 0s and >1 are in the same line. The 0s didn't go trought the >1 lines. So what we can really see is not a geometrial crossing.
When 0s coming down not necessary to moving up with >1.
Enough to us if the two lines are touching together.

I hope you want to ask this and my post is understandable.

Winkel, right?

ernesto

[TwoCatSam]

Ernesto

Exactly!  Now I may be splitting hairs here, but that's what I do!  9 9 is not a crossing; it is an [highlight]equaling.[/highlight]

So, what's my point?  I understood we were betting for a possible crossing.  Here there is no possible crossing, so why are we betting?

I could just as easily say, "When I have ten unhit numbers, I will bet them."  bjb007's last six does this only on six or twelve.

All, trust me, I am not knocking this idea.  I feel--just a gut feeling!--that if we bet all crossings when only twelve numbers remained, and if there was a tie, but the lowest first (bet 1 over 2) and used Lanky's Six Point Divisor, I don't see how it could fail.  I see lots of crossings at the 12 number level.

Did I use enough stuff?   

Sam

[ernesto]

Sam!

I happy if I can help to see the possible crossings.
But now I don't understand what you wrote before. You can combine two system or method?

ernesto

[TwoCatSam]

Ernesto

Just saying to bet on a 12-number bet (dozen) and use Lanky's Six Point Divisor.  That is a money-management program.

Sam

[winkel]

Hi TCS,

Exactly!  Now I may be splitting hairs here, but that's what I do!  9 9 is not a crossing; it is an equaling.

So, what's my point?  I understood we were betting for a possible crossing.  Here there is no possible crossing, so why are we betting?

If you look at the diagram you see that the line of the 0s (blue) is crossing the line of the ">1" (dark red)

Now look:

11 18 8
11 17 9
11 16 10

0 = slow
1 = going down
>1 rising

14 14 9
13 15 9
12 16 9
11 17 9
10 18 9

0 = falling
1 = rising
>1 = slow

14   12   11
13   13   11
13   12   12
13   12   12
13   11   13
13   11   13
12   12   13


0 = slow
1 = up and down
>1 =  rising

Try to imagine what would be the best way to bet "0" crossing ">1"

br
winkel

[TwoCatSam]

winkel

Thank you for that explanation.

Sam

[ernesto]

Try to imagine what would be the best way to bet "0" crossing ">1"

Winkel

I bet on this 0s vs >1
11 18 8
11 17 9
11 16 10

0 = slow
1 = going down
>1 rising

Because the second have lot of 0s in front and the third don't have 0s vs >1 trigger.

ernesto

[ernesto]

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