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Testing G.U.T

Started by winkel, September 04, 2008, 04:10:41 PM

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Tucktuckster

winkel,

is there a point where u decided not to bet on a strand.

ie - if after 37 spins there are no crossings etc.

winkel

If there is a situation where it would take too long to get a crossing and that crossing doesn´t look pretty.

e.g.

we have 13 20 5
it would take 7 wins of 1s to get 13 13
after 7 1´s it is also 13 13 12

a double crossing would show up. I don´t wait for that to be in a problem.

I hope this example suits your question

br
winkel

Herb

At some point you need to listen to what others have to say on this forum.  Even if you don't like what they have to say.

When I told you this system didn't stand a chance of working you should have actually read why I said that it was destined to fail.
Long ago, other people had traveled down this path before you.  Rather than insulting them, you should try and build on their knowledge.

  Trying the same methods over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity.

kompressor

hi winkel

2117 / 50 days =  42.34 units per day

42.34 / 3 sessions = 14.11 units per session

i'm playing only in a real casino....do you recommend playing 3 sessions per day ?

with 5$ chips 14 units average dont worth the trouble


winkel

Hi kompressor,

the winner knows when to stop. Either on a win or a loss.

br
winkel

madupz4

Quote from: winkel on October 25, 2008, 05:36:26 AM
Hi kompressor,

the winner knows when to stop. Either on a win or a loss.

br
winkel

Winkel,

I was reading through the testing pages and I want to do my own testing similar to what you did with RNG.  You mentioned a few pages back that a good stop loss is +39 or -39 or if your -39 to keep going hoping to recover your losses. 

Based on your experience, which way do you think is more beneficial to limit big losses? 

When we are down
-39 does the system usually recover or do we risk falling even more?

winkel

instead of an answer I give you my results

Stop at -40 or +40
[table=,]Day   ,   RNG   ,   Touch   ,   Live   ,   day result   ,   bankroll tot
all   ,   162    ,   60    ,   683    ,      ,   905
1    ,   -49    ,   -40    ,   41    ,   -48    ,   -48
2    ,   -40    ,   46    ,   -26    ,   -20    ,   -68
3    ,   59    ,   -41    ,   -44    ,   -26    ,   -94
4    ,   21    ,   -31    ,   -1    ,   -11    ,   -105
5    ,   -40    ,   -14    ,   -40    ,   -94    ,   -199
6    ,   47    ,   41    ,   41    ,   129    ,   -70
7    ,   44    ,   -52    ,   59    ,   51    ,   -19
8    ,   -50    ,   40    ,   44    ,   34    ,   15
9    ,   27    ,   -40    ,   -44    ,   -57    ,   -42
10    ,   56    ,   44    ,   -45    ,   55    ,   13
11    ,   -48    ,   -9    ,   55    ,   -2    ,   11
12    ,   -44    ,   37    ,   25    ,   18    ,   29
13    ,   6    ,   -23    ,   43    ,   26    ,   55
14    ,   -44    ,   -40    ,   44    ,   -40    ,   15
15    ,   45    ,   -50    ,   3    ,   -2    ,   13
16    ,   54    ,   41    ,   2    ,   97    ,   110
17    ,   41    ,   30    ,   26    ,   97    ,   207
18    ,   -40    ,   -30    ,   43    ,   -27    ,   180
19    ,   -6    ,   -45    ,   -43    ,   -94    ,   86
20    ,   -34    ,   -43    ,   -4    ,   -81    ,   5
21    ,   -40    ,   -44    ,   42    ,   -42    ,   -37
22    ,   -42    ,   64    ,   1    ,   23    ,   -14
23    ,   -44    ,   0    ,   43    ,   -1    ,   -15
24    ,   44    ,   -41    ,   -47    ,   -44    ,   -59
25    ,   -44    ,   -46    ,   -40    ,   -130    ,   -189
26    ,   -41    ,   -42    ,   35    ,   -48    ,   -237
27    ,   5    ,   -2    ,   43    ,   46    ,   -191
28    ,   42    ,   -17    ,   46    ,   71    ,   -120
29    ,   -50    ,   40    ,   23    ,   13    ,   -107
30    ,   49    ,   47    ,   40    ,   136    ,   29
31    ,   41    ,   -48    ,   -37    ,   -44    ,   -15
32    ,   5    ,   -44    ,   20    ,   -19    ,   -34
33    ,   -41    ,   52    ,   35    ,   46    ,   12
34    ,   47    ,   46    ,   -50    ,   43    ,   55
35    ,   5    ,   56    ,   46    ,   107    ,   162
36    ,   25    ,   51    ,   50    ,   126    ,   288
37    ,   42    ,   -42    ,   44    ,   44    ,   332
38    ,   -50    ,   23    ,   -47    ,   -74    ,   258
39    ,   -27    ,   55    ,   24    ,   52    ,   310
40    ,   -51    ,   -49    ,   47    ,   -53    ,   257
41    ,   47    ,   41    ,   -50    ,   38    ,   295
42    ,   54    ,   -16    ,   -19    ,   19    ,   314
43    ,   41    ,   49    ,   22    ,   112    ,   426
44    ,   -8    ,   53    ,   47    ,   92    ,   518
45    ,   58    ,   51    ,   46    ,   155    ,   673
46    ,   42    ,   -10    ,   49    ,   81    ,   754
47    ,   -46    ,   -44    ,   32    ,   -58    ,   696
48    ,   8    ,   50    ,   -43    ,   15    ,   711
49    ,   45    ,   49    ,   53    ,   147    ,   858
50    ,   41    ,   -43    ,   49    ,   47    ,   905
51    ,   40    ,   -46    ,   1    ,   -5    ,   900
52    ,   -21    ,   -6    ,   -33    ,   -60    ,   840
[/table]


stop at +40 or spin 50
[table=,]Day   ,   RNG   ,   Touch   ,   Live   ,   day result   ,   bankroll tot
all   ,   782    ,   222    ,   594    ,      ,   1598
1    ,   -32    ,   37    ,   41    ,   46    ,   46
2    ,   -17    ,   46    ,   -26    ,   3    ,   49
3    ,   59    ,   -43    ,   -22    ,   -6    ,   43
4    ,   21    ,   -31    ,   -1    ,   -11    ,   32
5    ,   -18    ,   -14    ,   -16    ,   -48    ,   -16
6    ,   47    ,   41    ,   41    ,   129    ,   113
7    ,   44    ,   -79    ,   59    ,   24    ,   137
8    ,   -10    ,   40    ,   44    ,   74    ,   211
9    ,   -45    ,   -30    ,   2    ,   -73    ,   138
10    ,   56    ,   44    ,   -49    ,   51    ,   189
11    ,   -3    ,   -9    ,   55    ,   43    ,   232
12    ,   17    ,   37    ,   25    ,   79    ,   311
13    ,   6    ,   -23    ,   43    ,   26    ,   337
14    ,   4    ,   -66    ,   44    ,   -18    ,   319
15    ,   45    ,   5    ,   3    ,   53    ,   372
16    ,   54    ,   41    ,   2    ,   97    ,   469
17    ,   41    ,   30    ,   26    ,   97    ,   566
18    ,   59    ,   -30    ,   43    ,   72    ,   638
19    ,   -6    ,   -64    ,   -69    ,   -139    ,   499
20    ,   -34    ,   -43    ,   -4    ,   -81    ,   418
21    ,   -55    ,   -45    ,   42    ,   -58    ,   360
22    ,   15    ,   64    ,   1    ,   80    ,   440
23    ,   29    ,   0    ,   43    ,   72    ,   512
24    ,   44    ,   -10    ,   -14    ,   20    ,   532
25    ,   -12    ,   -60    ,   -111    ,   -183    ,   349
26    ,   19    ,   27    ,   35    ,   81    ,   430
27    ,   5    ,   -2    ,   43    ,   46    ,   476
28    ,   42    ,   -17    ,   46    ,   71    ,   547
29    ,   -43    ,   40    ,   23    ,   20    ,   567
30    ,   49    ,   47    ,   40    ,   136    ,   703
31    ,   41    ,   -15    ,   -37    ,   -11    ,   692
32    ,   5    ,   -27    ,   20    ,   -2    ,   690
33    ,   -41    ,   52    ,   35    ,   46    ,   736
34    ,   47    ,   46    ,   -93    ,   0    ,   736
35    ,   5    ,   56    ,   46    ,   107    ,   843
36    ,   25    ,   51    ,   50    ,   126    ,   969
37    ,   42    ,   -56    ,   44    ,   30    ,   999
38    ,   21    ,   23    ,   -47    ,   -3    ,   996
39    ,   -27    ,   55    ,   24    ,   52    ,   1048
40    ,   -2    ,   -75    ,   47    ,   -30    ,   1018
41    ,   47    ,   41    ,   -107    ,   -19    ,   999
42    ,   54    ,   -16    ,   -19    ,   19    ,   1018
43    ,   41    ,   49    ,   22    ,   112    ,   1130
44    ,   -8    ,   53    ,   47    ,   92    ,   1222
45    ,   58    ,   51    ,   46    ,   155    ,   1377
46    ,   42    ,   -10    ,   49    ,   81    ,   1458
47    ,   -43    ,   -63    ,   32    ,   -74    ,   1384
48    ,   8    ,   50    ,   -56    ,   2    ,   1386
49    ,   45    ,   49    ,   53    ,   147    ,   1533
50    ,   41    ,   -25    ,   49    ,   65    ,   1598
51    ,   40    ,   -79    ,   1    ,   -38    ,   1560
52    ,   -21    ,   -6    ,   -33    ,   -60    ,   1500
[/table]

See_Jerek

Thats is no arguement on this.Problem is as a basic player do we have the experience to play at your level and achieve the same results as you.I have faith in the system 100% cross my heart but we need the foundation a firm one before playing for real money

winkel

The only thing you can do is testing with your own spins or any spins you can get on the internet or live-casinos or from anywhere even from RNG.

you will get experience and learn how to watch what´s going on.

simple rules:
trigger = bet
if in doubt = don´t bet
if in a loss = jump

br
winkel

See_Jerek

Quote from: winkel on October 25, 2008, 04:28:58 PM
The only thing you can do is testing with your own spins or any spins you can get on the internet or live-casinos or from anywhere even from RNG.

you will get experience and learn how to watch what´s going on.

simple rules:
trigger = bet
if in doubt = don´t bet
if in a loss = jump

br
winkel

Yes fully agreed and 50 spins only

madupz4

Quote from: winkel on October 25, 2008, 04:28:58 PM
The only thing you can do is testing with your own spins or any spins you can get on the internet or live-casinos or from anywhere even from RNG.

you will get experience and learn how to watch what´s going on.

simple rules:
trigger = bet
if in doubt = don´t bet
if in a loss = jump

br
winkel

Winkel

Thanks for the response!  One more follow up question, when we are in the negative, we continue to play hoping to recover our losses to spin #50. 

So say we reach spin #50 and we are down -40, or even -80, at this point do you recommend juming back 18 and starting a new session OR bc we had such a large loss, do you think it might be better to retrack a whole new set of 37 numbers and begin from new?

What do you think?


winkel

QuoteSo say we reach spin #50 and we are down -40, or even -80, at this point do you recommend juming back 18 and starting a new session OR bc we had such a large loss, do you think it might be better to retrack a whole new set of 37 numbers and begin from new?

pls do exercises with the tracker4.exe because only experience will give you the possibility to make the right decision.

br
winkel

madupz4

Winkel

A few pages ago you mentioned and proved in one of your RNG tests that after 40+ in profits its best to jump back.

But recently, after looking at ALL of your tests in 50 days your results show that when you stop and jump back at 40+ your total profits are 1,598 while your profits for not jumping back at +40 and stopping at spin #50 are 2,117!

So what do you recommend based on your results?

Should we jump back at 40+ OR at 50 spins?


winkel

The 2117 are not "JumpBack-results" It is always the first 50 spins of the day.
(the last two days it shrinked to 1979)

I can´t recommend anything. every spin-row acts different. Your decision is needed,

br
winkel

madupz4

Quote from: winkel on October 25, 2008, 09:26:24 PM
The 2117 are not "JumpBack-results" It is always the first 50 spins of the day.
(the last two days it shrinked to 1979)

I can´t recommend anything. every spin-row acts different. Your decision is needed,

br
winkel


Yes that's what I said.

+40/recover = 1,598

-Stop at spin 50 = 2,117 (NO jump back!)

So stopping at spin 50 seems to be better long term than jumping back after +40...agreed?

madupz4

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