Personal consideration of a B/R Holy Grail System.

[madupz4]

My BR is not impressive, but I have made a total of 1.469 units plus since the beginning of this and no loss, since it was recovered during play.

Let me know what you think.
Kind regards

//Codegenic.

When you say out of 10,000 spins tested, your bankroll is 1.469 do you mean you are up +147 units?  Or are you only up 1.4 units or less than 2?  If you are only up 1.4 units, wouldn't it seem like you are not going anywhere, simply running in place?

[codegenic]

My BR is not impressive, but I have made a total of 1.469 units plus since the beginning of this and no loss, since it was recovered during play.

Let me know what you think.
Kind regards

//Codegenic.

When you say out of 10,000 spins tested, your bankroll is 1.469 do you mean you are up +147 units?  Or are you only up 1.4 units or less than 2?  If you are only up 1.4 units, wouldn't it seem like you are not going anywhere, simply running in place?

I meant that I ended at one thousand four hundred and sixty nine, starting with a BR of 30 euros. I varied the bets, starting with low wagers in the beginning and then steadily played 5 euros a bet and then 10 etc.

[madupz4]

My BR is not impressive, but I have made a total of 1.469 units plus since the beginning of this and no loss, since it was recovered during play.

Let me know what you think.
Kind regards

//Codegenic.

When you say out of 10,000 spins tested, your bankroll is 1.469 do you mean you are up +147 units?  Or are you only up 1.4 units or less than 2?  If you are only up 1.4 units, wouldn't it seem like you are not going anywhere, simply running in place?

I meant that I ended at one thousand four hundred and sixty nine, starting with a BR of 30 euros. I varied the bets, starting with low wagers in the beginning and then steadily played 5 euros a bet and then 10 etc.

Ok.  Also when you say to bet ".1" on the zero what is ".1" if i'm playing at a $5 min bet per table?

[JLP]

My BR is not impressive, but I have made a total of 1.469 units plus since the beginning of this and no loss, since it was recovered during play.

Let me know what you think.
Kind regards

//Codegenic.

When you say out of 10,000 spins tested, your bankroll is 1.469 do you mean you are up +147 units?  Or are you only up 1.4 units or less than 2?  If you are only up 1.4 units, wouldn't it seem like you are not going anywhere, simply running in place?

I meant that I ended at one thousand four hundred and sixty nine, starting with a BR of 30 euros. I varied the bets, starting with low wagers in the beginning and then steadily played 5 euros a bet and then 10 etc.

Ok.  Also when you say to bet ".1" on the zero what is ".1" if i'm playing at a $5 min bet per table?

Hi madupz4,

He puts an insurance bet on zero (.1 = 0.1) to cover the loss and stay break even or on top from last bankroll high when zero spuns (bets : 2R + 1B + 0.1Z for example).
So for 5 minimum bet would be : 0.5 units on zero I think.

Codegenic thanks for your last answer.

Cheers,
JLP.-

[coolpaddy]

Hi JLP & Codegenic,

2R + 1B   wins or loses 1 chip if either R or B is the bet result.
1R          wins or loses 1 chip for the same bet result.

2R + 1B + .1 on zero wins .5 if zero is the outcome.
1R        + .1 on zero wins 2.5  if zero is the outcome.

The original staking plan wastes 2 chips profit for a zero outcome and gives no advantage for any other outcome.




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[codegenic]

My math may be off, but 0.1 x 36 when a straight bet is placed gives more than 0.5 back.

Anyways, there is a reason to the madness of bettin  R2 B1.

//Codegenic

[Shorty]

In total it gives back 3.5 units but since you already have R2 B1 you lose those 3, profiting only 0.5 units.

Whereas if you only had 1 unit on red, the profit would be 2.5 units.

[buju]

hey thanks for your system! are you using this sysytem on rgn or live roulette? can i use this system to other even bets like odd/even or high/low?

thank mate

[codegenic]

The system can be applied to both live/rng casinoes.

As for the argument regarding the loss/waste of units betting both colors.
For starters, betting on zero using the smallest amount available, will result in a very acceptable loss og 0.1 euros/usd OR give you a very acceptable winning of 36 x the wager, minus the bets on both colors.

Now lets adress the actual bets prorportions, by defining these.
Naturally a bet consisting og 0.1 euro on zero, 1 euro on B and 2 euros on R will result in the formerly mentioned observations by coolpaddy and shorty. Meaningless to say, betting 1 euro on R will give you the same result. However I never mentioned that 1 unit EQUALS 1 euro or 1 usd. The term unit refers to the amount of unit, not the size of it. So 1 unit could easily be 0,5 euro/usd and 2 units could easily be 2x 0.1 euro/usd. Hope it clarifies the issue. The point in betting on BOTH colors is to enable continuous bets on the color that won, with lowest bet, since it could easily be the beginning of a streak that will recover or increase.

The system can be applied to all even bets and also outside bets like dozens, even though a different approach moneywise / betsizes will be needed. The actual system still requires betting on zero no matter what. Its in your interest.

//Codegenic.

[coolpaddy]

Hi Codegenic,

I have made a suggestion for improvement - of your system/profits. 

If there is no room for improvement that's ok. A simple explaination of the advantage of putting 3.1 chips into play would clear up any confusion.



               
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[See_Jerek]

The system can be applied to both live/rng casinoes.

As for the argument regarding the loss/waste of units betting both colors.
For starters, betting on zero using the smallest amount available, will result in a very acceptable loss og 0.1 euros/usd OR give you a very acceptable winning of 36 x the wager, minus the bets on both colors.

Now lets adress the actual bets prorportions, by defining these.
Naturally a bet consisting og 0.1 euro on zero, 1 euro on B and 2 euros on R will result in the formerly mentioned observations by coolpaddy and shorty. Meaningless to say, betting 1 euro on R will give you the same result. However I never mentioned that 1 unit EQUALS 1 euro or 1 usd. The term unit refers to the amount of unit, not the size of it. So 1 unit could easily be 0,5 euro/usd and 2 units could easily be 2x 0.1 euro/usd. Hope it clarifies the issue. The point in betting on BOTH colors is to enable continuous bets on the color that won, with lowest bet, since it could easily be the beginning of a streak that will recover or increase.

The system can be applied to all even bets and also outside bets like dozens, even though a different approach moneywise / betsizes will be needed. The actual system still requires betting on zero no matter what. Its in your interest.

//Codegenic.

Hello Codegenic,

Thanks for the system,I feel it rather safe and any player would be able to bear the loss,are you playing the original version or the modify one.I think it will be the best for you to advise loss limit and when to quit when you are ahead.That will be appreciated.Thanks mate

[HansHuckebein]

does anyone have any experience with the system "Triple Bonus Roulette" by Izak Matatya?

he recommends playing on all three dozens (by using differential betting he actually bets on only two)  and the zero at the same time.

[codegenic]

Hi Codegenic,

I have made a suggestion for improvement - of your system/profits. 

If there is no room for improvement that's ok. A simple explaination of the advantage of putting 3.1 chips into play would clear up any confusion.



               
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I am always happy when others comment on the use or lack thereoff a system. Especially if they feel they can add to the case and better it. Afterall, its a community in which we share our experiences and ideas.

So keep up the good work and thank you for your time.

//Codegenic

[codegenic]

The system can be applied to both live/rng casinoes.

As for the argument regarding the loss/waste of units betting both colors.
For starters, betting on zero using the smallest amount available, will result in a very acceptable loss og 0.1 euros/usd OR give you a very acceptable winning of 36 x the wager, minus the bets on both colors.

Now lets adress the actual bets prorportions, by defining these.
Naturally a bet consisting og 0.1 euro on zero, 1 euro on B and 2 euros on R will result in the formerly mentioned observations by coolpaddy and shorty. Meaningless to say, betting 1 euro on R will give you the same result. However I never mentioned that 1 unit EQUALS 1 euro or 1 usd. The term unit refers to the amount of unit, not the size of it. So 1 unit could easily be 0,5 euro/usd and 2 units could easily be 2x 0.1 euro/usd. Hope it clarifies the issue. The point in betting on BOTH colors is to enable continuous bets on the color that won, with lowest bet, since it could easily be the beginning of a streak that will recover or increase.

The system can be applied to all even bets and also outside bets like dozens, even though a different approach moneywise / betsizes will be needed. The actual system still requires betting on zero no matter what. Its in your interest.

//Codegenic.

Hello Codegenic,

Thanks for the system,I feel it rather safe and any player would be able to bear the loss,are you playing the original version or the modify one.I think it will be the best for you to advise loss limit and when to quit when you are ahead.That will be appreciated.Thanks mate

Thanks for your comment.

My advice on loss limit would be a max decline in your beginning BR of 5 percent and max decline in your profit of 10 percent within the range of a 20 minute play session. Either which comes first .

If you are closer to your goal by 5 or less profits, then you may quit the session.

//Codegenic

[coolpaddy]

Hi Codegenic,

You are right - this is a discussion forum. I've made a very positive suggestion on this thread and also asked a very simple question for the benefit of anyone playing or considering playing the system.

Your staking plan sacrifices 2 chips profit on a zero hit - I can't see the logic for this. Maybe you can explain or demonstrate the advantge of betting 3.1 chips as opposed to 1.1 chips.




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[coolpaddy]

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