KFS' GUT-test

[JHM]

KFS,

I understand what you are saying. But what about this. You start playing a session, I have played some sessions now and in almost all sessions I was @ +15-30 units. Than I kept playing to end the session (50 spins) and saw my BR drop down to break even, win some or loose.

What happens when we play our sessions and quit when we are up. Would that have influence on the outcome of our play?

[Kon-Fu-Sed]

Hi JHM,

I really think you should address all your questions regarding winkel's method to winkel.


Regards,
KFS

[winkel]

What happens when we play our sessions and quit when we are up. Would that have influence on the outcome of our play?

the rules for this test: stopp at >+39

br
winkel

[madupz4]

What happens when we play our sessions and quit when we are up. Would that have influence on the outcome of our play?

the rules for this test: stopp at >+39

br
winkel

When you say stop at +39, then you would restart of back track and begin again correct?

[Herb]

What happens when we play our sessions and quit when we are up. Would that have influence on the outcome of our play?

It would have no effect.

In the long run, this system will still lose.

[JHM]

What happens when we play our sessions and quit when we are up. Would that have influence on the outcome of our play?

It would have no effect.

In the long run, this system will still lose.

How abouth this. Don't play progression. Just play your sessions like you would normally. When you have lost a few times and down like -13-13-10-10 (total -46). Start a new game and bet 2 units (estimate the situation yourself). You're not playing a progression, but just raise a new flat bet / bet situation. It seem that the G.U.T. with winkel's rules (stop after 2 loss, depending on the total nr's.) never losses much bet situations following up.

[Kon-Fu-Sed]

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KFS

[JHM]

Because:
- There was a time when quotes didn't exist (years ago). Than quotes came, and in times it has become a habit (speaking for myself here).
- For others who join the topic and are not following the topic it is easier to read (again I'm speaking for myself).
- Some people don't quote when they reply to post which is not directly up. It's confusing.

Why quote not, it surely doesn't kill somebody 

[Kon-Fu-Sed]

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Address all your questions regarding USING winkel's method to winkel.
He's got a thread for that.
If you want help calculating the true loss in units in his proof-of-positive-ending, posted above, I can help you with that.


/KFS

[JHM]

Edit.

Thank you for the calculations offer.

[Kon-Fu-Sed]

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I'll have the calculations ready by tomorrow.
KFS

[JHM]

Forget the argue, it's misunderstood. Sorry for that.

That would be very nice KFS. The help is appreciated

[JHM]

KFS as for the calculations, this is my thought

Start a session bet flat 1 units p. number.
Session(50 spins) ends positive, start next session and bet 1 units again.
When session ends negative start new session and bet 2 units
Session ends end positive, start next session and bet 1 units again.
When session ends negative, start new session and bet 3 units
Session ends end positive, start next session and bet 1 units again.

All bets per session are flat bets.

Etc. etc.

Do this up to 10 unit's p. number.

I hope this is clear and you can calculate this, would be great 

[TwoCatSam]

KFS

OK, you hit the proverbial nail on the head.  This quote within a quote within a quote is annoying.  People, you can edit quotes.  You can also put your words in a the quote to make it look like the poster said it.  What's that all about?  A quote is a separate statement from yours.  If you want to make a point and you want to use the poster's words, just erase everything but the pertinent line.

As a second-hand administrator, if I get one PM complaint from any member about a quote that is written in, I will delete that post until it is fixed.  I've said before, write outside or below or to the right of the last QUOTE at the bottom.  Do NOT write to the left of above it.

It is done and I have let it pass as I know the people doing it have read what I said and don't want to follow my guidelines.  I did not delete their posts as I got no complaints and it would have been acknowledging their little dig.

One PM complaint from one member and I'll delete every post with writing inside the quote!

Fair enough? 
Sam

[TwoCatSam]

A PIG FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!!  The K man did not say that.  It's a "lie quote".  This is writing inside the quotes.

This is outside!

Don't always believe quotes. 

Or anything else....

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

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