Q & A about the G.U.T. and TwoCat's Last Test.

[madupz4]

TCS,

Im done testing the GUT, I have tested close to 1,000 spins and ended up at close to my starting bankroll, going up, then down then up.  I was never consistent.  This was done on RNG's. 

You are the last hope.  Unless your tests make consistent profits then I think I am officially done with the GUT.  Over the long-term, at least in my opinion, the GUT does not give you any advantage at all when betting on a crossing just like KFS proved.

I am eager to see your final results!

[TwoCatSam]

madupz4

A video will be posted shortly, as soon as it is finished uploading to Motion Box.  In that video you will see me go down, down, down!  You will hear the angst in my voice.  Then I jump back and it's a different world.  I end up ahead for the trot.

Now you say you go up and down.  I'm not suggesting you do this, but what if I had doubled my bet at my low point and then came back stronger?  That is my T.C.U.P.T. method.  I'm not doing it because I don't have the guts, pure and simple.  But if I had used my own invention every time I went down 50u, I would be ahead much more.

Right now, I just want to determine if the gut works or not.

Sam

[madupz4]

madupz4

A video will be posted shortly, as soon as it is finished uploading to Motion Box.  In that video you will see me go down, down, down!  You will hear the angst in my voice.  Then I jump back and it's a different world.  I end up ahead for the trot.

Now you say you go up and down.  I'm not suggesting you do this, but what if I had doubled my bet at my low point and then came back stronger?  That is my T.C.U.P.T. method.  I'm not doing it because I don't have the guts, pure and simple.  But if I had used my own invention every time I went down 50u, I would be ahead much more.

Right now, I just want to determine if the gut works or not.

Sam

Yes I agree, that might work, and I might be willing to try it.  I read your TCUPT method and it makes alot of sense.  I tried to think of other ways to use it that would be even easier than the GUT. 

For example, if you were to just flat bet Red vs. black for 10 spins, there are times when Red would dominate and times when Black would dominate.  What if we flat bet RED for 10 spins, then if we are in the negative from our starting bankroll, then next 10 spins on red would all be doubled. (eg 5 units, then 10 units, then 15 units, then 30 units, etc.....) untill we are back at even, then we start with our original bet of 5 units.  Anytime we are ahead of our starting bankroll, then that is our new starting point.  It would make sense that over time we would come out ahead, especially when over the long term a even money 50/50 bet should come in EVEN.  What do you think?  There has to be an easier way to exploit this rather than using it with the GUT.  Lets brainstorm!

[TwoCatSam]

mad

Good point!  I will give that some thought, if I can get my brain to function without caffeine. 

What would really be interesting would be to see a graph of anything that goes up and down and always gets back to zero or very near.  Imagine this:

[table=,]
We're Down,,,We're Up To
10,,,Even
20,,,-2
8,,,+1
14,,,Even
[/table]

If you doubled your bet each time you were at the bottom of the graph, you would make a killing. 

'Course, who knows where the bottom is?  Thus the double/double idea.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Getting back to the G.U.T.


I don't want to say this prematurely, but it seems that I am getting a feel for how things go during a trot.  Here again, this may just be luck.

I have learned something for certain, and this should apply to any system or method.  Yesterday, I called my wife in to see a hit as she loves to see the puck land on a number.  Then she's gone.  But in that time, only fifteen seconds or so, I missed a bet.  I was still up 6.5 for the day, so what the heck?

The heck is that your balance is a running total and when you miss on the first of the month, it is still a miss on the thirtieth of the month.  Money lost is money lost.  A missed opportunity for a win is money lost!

The fewer mistakes I make, the more I profit.  Mistakes also blow my concentration!  Sometimes wins do, too!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

If there is one other student of winkel other than myself.............

I am learning the "jump back" is vital to the success of this system.  When you jump, it's almost like you have left the casino and returned another day.  At least that's the way it was worked for me in my tests. 

Yesterday I was truly thinking I was going to have to quit very much on the downside and walk away.  After the jump, I started seeing wins and before long--lots of them--and I was up 8.5.  My wife posed the question of how much per-hour I had made last night.  Wives do that!

Being humble, I must say it could all be luck.  I don't think it is.

Sam

[kompressor]

i'm here just for you xxx

anonymous

[New Ken]

Hi, Two Cat---can this be tested?

New Ken here. Here's a silly little system I came up with: you record 38 spins, and play "against" columns, and "segments".

Divide board into four equal segments of 9 nos each: 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36.
Now let's say the following constitute the first nos spun (of the 38):

15
27
19
02
14
13
etc...

In new 38 spins I simply play "against" last 38. for example:

The first no. (15) belongs to segment 2 (10-18), and also column 3 (3, 6, 9, 12, etc). I leave out these nos (18 in all) and play the remaining nos (20 nos including zeros).


I'm betting that the same column and segment will not replay in the order of the previous 38 spins.

I'm aware that New Spin No. Three, for example, may contain a number from the column and/or segment of Previous Spin No. Three---when this occurs, I initiate a progression to reclaim loss.

What are the odds of spins 3, 4, 5, and 6 corresponding exactly with previous spins 3, 4, 5, etc?

Am I making any sense..?

[cps10]

New Ken

I like that idea. If you could make me a chart for which numbers to bet on when a certain number corresponds, I could test it and put some results in a new thread. I would need specific rules to follow in order to make sure that we are on the same page. If you wish, please PM me so that we don't interfere with TCS' questions to the GUT system.

In other words, in the example that you had, you see that 15 showed in the first spin of the group of 38. Then you eliminate certain numbers and would bet on certain numbers. So, if you could do a chart for each number and what to bet on, that would be helpful.

[winkel]

Hi TCS,

just stop testing. As I won´t explain the more advantage rules, the betting you are doing so far is "luck". You bet two triggers at the same time, you bet more than 50 spins, and so on..

please stop before you lose your money.

br
winkel

[xman1970]

Hi TCS,

just stop testing. As I won´t explain the more advantage rules, the betting you are doing so far is "luck". You bet two triggers at the same time, you bet more than 50 spins, and so on..

please stop before you lose your money.

br
winkel

@ Winkel,

So you let 2Cats test for months & then tell him

"your betting lucky"

&

"I won't explain the advantage rules"


that's poor form Winkel 

As far as I'm concerned shame on you.....

Not impressed.....

[New Ken]

whwoa! I'm a very new member, but I agree, man. Two Cat deserves better...

New Ken

[xman1970]

whwoa! I'm a very new member, but I agree, man. Two Cat deserves better...

New Ken

Many Thx New Ken 

I have absolutely no doubt many more will agree with my comments.....

[TwoCatSam]

To everyone.....

I am doing the best I know how to do.  I came up considerably in the last trot.  I am not discouraged.  Did anyone see me pump $229 to over $1400?  I've got a little change to play with!

I learned my darn mouse battery was dying and that caused me not to be able to use Track4 and then it quit entirely and I could not even film it.

HINT:  If you see your cursor moving by itself, you need a new battery!!  I thought my computer had become "self-aware" and was trying to bet for me.

It's all fun.

Glad to hear from you winkel. 

Sam

[kompressor]

Hi TCS,

just stop testing. As I won´t explain the more advantage rules, the betting you are doing so far is "luck". You bet two triggers at the same time, you bet more than 50 spins, and so on..

please stop before you lose your money.

br
winkel

....after all the time and the energy i've spent on this system....

[kompressor]

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