HOW TO FIND A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET

[Moccoman]

JHM - There is no mention of the dozens on "Wayback" 20/10/07. But he does also mention that winning bets on the COLUMNS are swiped move often than any other bet.

On a page that "is no more" he mentions a Bet of 12 to return 8 or 20 or bet 15 to return 10 or 25. I know of only one bet that fits this criteria and that is an even chance and 2 bets on a 2/1 chance.

Marven - He says about playing online and won - "You have made the great escape" and "Stop being foolish". I took that as being anti RNG.

Carlitos - You took that comment a different way but all I saw was not to play "follow the last".

Mocco

[WARRIOR]

moccomon when i made the bet on black and 1 unit on 3rd colum charles did say to me that it was a fair bet but not a good bet he said i was on the road .. and maybe just had to add one more location  the movement came from a bet that when a last result would show he would follow it, that was   a bet he showed at one time on the streets   but said that was not the bet ,he was showing an example on movment with that bet . so i think your close  but the next thing would be what should happen more often then not then test it. all the best

[JHM]

Mocco,

I quit don't understand your bet. Could you please explain the bet you have come up too?

[WARRIOR]

ok i did a test on 505 spins on the colums  following the last color that came in  red bet 1 and 3  black bet 1 and 2  here are the results lost 5 in a row 3 times   4 times in a row3 times     3 in a row 8 times    thi is 500 spins there is no 6 in a row  but im sure it will happen.     

[Moccoman]

JHM

The thinking was - if the first and second columns appear in order in the last 2 spins, does the third column then appear more often/less often of about 1/3 of the time (as it should).

I have coded columns using A,B and C, so you can easily see "movements across the table". I have noticed that column 3(C) does seem to appear as it should on about 1/3 occasions. However going the other way, C then B but A doesn't appear, maybe, as often as it should. I was thinking bet opposite colour then columns A and B - capturing the run (second column) and the change (colour and first column).

Charles, I thought we should only looking at blocks of exactly 100 spins. Using longer streams of numbers will only make things even more confusing than they are!! 

Mocco

[madupz4]

As I said, I am tired of the usual betting approaches, I have been testing bunches and bunches of them and they all fail.
I think it's better to go back and re-form a new foundation for the research that is more inline with Charles' clues.
If he says it's the unconventional thinking you will need, then it's the unconventional thinking we will need. It's needless to waste more time trying things like play with/against red/black/odd/even, or follow the last x number of lines, etc, etc.

At this point, understanding randomness is a the best to do in my opinion. And something like trading theories might be worth looking into since traders are the kind of people that deal a lot with randomness.

Regards,
Marven

I agree 100%!  This is where i've been focusing my attention lately, on every possible move than can be random wheather it makes sense or not. 

I have a feeling that this bet is something that is not logical, meaning it is something that when and if we ever find out what it is, we would smack ourselves in the face and say,..... "DUH!!" 

I'm trying to look at every possible move by putting them into LW code and seeing if there are many many unusual LLLLLLLLLLLL's or WWWWWWWWWW's that we can take advantage of.

[WARRIOR]

moccomon but you said having a 3rd unit how would you use that

[Moccoman]

Hi Charles,

Black + columns 1 and 2 gives us 14 wins, 13 losses (9 at all 3 units, 4 at 1 unit) and 10 break even. And then it is the same result for Red + columns 1 and 3.

I may be totally wrong but I have a gut feeling that the solution revolves around these 2 bets.

Mocco

[Carlitos]

Mocco, he also mentions to play uncoventional. If we follow the last colours it is pretty much coventional.


We must look for data in an uncoventional way. To do this we perhaps must use the abnormalities........






Carlitos 

[Moccoman]

You are right, of course, playing FTL or OLD is conventional but playing "a bet inside a bet" like a colour and 2 columns at the same time may be considered  unconventional (even if we don't think it is!).

I must admit that when I was playing last month and betting something similar, I was getting some weird looks, from both the players and the pit boss!

[pighead]

Guys,

I can not really get to sleep.. If you have any 100 Spins # that you believe is Invincible. Please send them to me!

tks

PH

[Ka2]

Then later says "There is a "Reason" I have not published all the "differentials" about the roulette wheels and layouts. This is because they are "conventional" and only serve to confuse. Do not follow this route, look for the "Opposite" in all you find. There is "Good Reason" to do so."

I Think this is very interesting. I read it a few times before, that the table is designed to confuse players. So lets take a conventional bet, say Third Column, that's 12 numbers. To make a unconventional bet that's also a dozen bet you could engineer a bet that would concists out of 1 single, 2 splits, 1 street, and 1 quarter bet. What would also be 12 numbers, or would this bet still be seen as conventional?

[Ka2]

Count me in!

I've already invested sooo much time, Charles owes me A LOT of shut eye!

Madupz4. I see you also write on Gamblers Glen about the subject. Are you still using your 16+  -20 system?

[Moccoman]

Ka2,

I would consider that to be a conventional bet. Using the same criteria, a bet that I would see as "unconventional" would be 20, 17/20 and 19/20 splits, the 19-21 street and the 20,21,23,24 quad.

[iboba]

Hi mates,have been observed your topic thoroughly,and come to followed conclusion;--You are all on the wrong track,the man--CEH--/wich,by the way,in my language means--DEBT PAY-/is really trucking/driving/you arround.         Down under we used to call those chaps PAINT ROLLER,or plainly,CONMAN.Amen,iboba

[iboba]

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