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HOW TO FIND A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET

Started by JHM, November 28, 2008, 01:47:41 PM

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redhot

he doesn't double his bank, hes saying that he splits his bank into 20 sessions of equal amounts. The bet has lost 6 times in a row on occasions, he splits his bank into 20 sessions, therefore he could lose 18 sessions in a row (3*6=18).

JHM

You're right, I was reading what I wanted to be there  ;D

Ka2

He doesnt split his bank for 20 sessions, but his session bank, in 20 units.

redhot

Quote from: Ka2 on January 07, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
He doesn't split his bank for 20 sessions, but his session bank, in 20 units.

Yes sorry, I wasn't very clear in my explanation

Ka2


redhot

Found something interesting on his site:

"There is an alternative to using a"Consistent Winning Bet" and that is to adopt the strategy as per page 7."

The strategy on page 7 is just pure money management. He talks about riding long streaks of luck betting big, winning big and sitting out on streaks of losing, betting small and losing small.

If this is true, we do not need to find "the winning bet". It doesn't matter what you bet, if your in a lucky streak you will win. By betting big in our winning streaks we take large amounts of the casinos money. By betting small when the casino is on a winning streak they can only take small amounts of our money.

Also we can set limits for example on how much we use each session, if the casino wins this from us we can walk away. The casino has no limit, if we win from the casino they have to pay and they have to keep paying, they can't walk away!

I believe if we can master this strategy we will not need the winning bet, the winning bet would make it easier but its not essential.


Ka2

Luck is a nasty factor... I do not want to rely on it.

f-rl-player

Quote from: CHARLES on January 06, 2009, 03:36:13 PM
if you read one of the emails i sent charles back in febuary of 2008 i asked him what he thought of betting 1 unit on black and 1 on 3rd colum he said it was resnable and fair but not good up until then he not have all the other info on his sight like he does now all the other pages were not there  on movement  and at the time i had no clue on movement i was just going by what he called safe betting and a clue that he gave about double edged bet but now i was thinking back to that bet i made he also said i was on the right road  i take that as a hint .so after the page on movement came into the picture i started pla.ying around with movement im using the same bet but the only differnce is i added another bet i will explaine now you guys all ready know this one its been done  many times i did not test it to the extent of a 100 spins 0n 30 session because  i was looking in the wrong places i guess . runs and changes thats what he said no win no lose these are the clue, try beting foLlowing the runs lets say black  your bet will be on black and 1st and second colum if its red switch to red and 1st and 3rd colum  thers a win 3  UNITS lose 3 on 9 numbers  break even on some numbers and losE 1 unit on on some numbers now blend that wiTH a lw stRatagie and maybe we have a winning bet thats it . ALL IT NEEDS  TO BE TESTED LET ME NO.
Hi,i'm newbie. When i read Charles website i hv same ideal like your:"foLlowing the runs lets say black  your bet will be on black and 1st and second colum if its red switch to red and 1st and 3rd colum  thers a win 3  UNITS lose 3 on 9 numbers  break even on some numbers and losE 1 unit on on some numbers now blend that wiTH a lw stRatagie and maybe we have a winning bet thats it ".But i don't know about Lw stratagie.If you or anyone hv it,pls send it to me sothat i can test this bet.
Brgds/f-rl-player

pighead

Quote from: JHM on January 07, 2009, 10:26:46 AM
I mean this post by pighead.


JHM, I am not sure what "consistent winning" to you.. Does six losing in a row  sound like a consistent winning to you?

At the first glance, it  sounds to me that you will win on every bet you place.






Ka2

win 6 out of 5 / 12 out of 11 etc, thats consisting winning...

JHM

Consistent winning means to me, when most session ends positive without big losses.

pighead

JHM/Marven

I think that's what Charles exactly  meant by " If you can find a bet to trap more winners than losers against the odds paid, you have a winning bet"..

6 numbers/units for a bet and if you win, you get 30units to fund the next 3-4 spins, even you lose them all, you still win.If the bet is 12number's bet, one winner will cover 2 losers..in those two cases, we don't need to trap more winners..

For this consistent winning bet,  we need to trap more winners than losers. does it imply that's a bet more than 18 number at a time,

the question here is that, if we play a bet more than 18 numbers, it makes it no difference than playing playing black/red even bet..
PH




 

redhot

Quote from: CHARLES on January 06, 2009, 03:36:13 PM
if you read one of the emails i sent charles back in febuary of 2008 i asked him what he thought of betting 1 unit on black and 1 on 3rd colum he said it was resnable and fair but not good up until then he not have all the other info on his sight like he does now all the other pages were not there  on movement  and at the time i had no clue on movement i was just going by what he called safe betting and a clue that he gave about double edged bet but now i was thinking back to that bet i made he also said i was on the right road  i take that as a hint .so after the page on movement came into the picture i started pla.ying around with movement im using the same bet but the only differnce is i added another bet i will explaine now you guys all ready know this one its been done  many times i did not test it to the extent of a 100 spins 0n 30 session because  i was looking in the wrong places i guess . runs and changes thats what he said no win no lose these are the clue, try beting foLlowing the runs lets say black  your bet will be on black and 1st and second colum if its red switch to red and 1st and 3rd colum  thers a win 3  UNITS lose 3 on 9 numbers  break even on some numbers and losE 1 unit on on some numbers now blend that wiTH a lw stRatagie and maybe we have a winning bet thats it . ALL IT NEEDS  TO BE TESTED LET ME NO.

Yes I think you are definetly on the right track, however your only taking advantage of the runs, charles says that you need to take advantage of the runs AND the changes,

"I had by default found the answer to randomness by finding a bet that was able to use the "Runs" and the "Changes" to advantage. You need both. One without the other is a recipe for disaster."

So If the last number was say 5, it is Red and Odd. So to take advantage of the runs we would need to bet Red and Odd.
But what if it changes? then we would need to cover Black and Even so based on the fact that 8 of the 10 black+even numbers are in the 1st+2nd Columns, we also bet the 1st+2nd Columns.

Now there are two black and even numbers left uncovered in the 3rd column BUT charles says:

"Trapping the runs, and trapping the changes quickly enough (not all)"


So we are trapping the runs by following the last (red + odd)
We are also trapping the changes by covering the opposites (black and even:1st+2nd Columns)
But "Not all" of the changes as there are two numbers uncovered.

I think this is the sort of thing, it needs refining but I think this is on the right track.

WARRIOR

guys im am the only one here that had any contact with this guy he gave only one bet that he showed his movment concept and his past results concept on page 5   where the question was ask about movement  look at the wheel results and it will give results across the table  he used follow the last results on the streets  taking the last 5 results and going from there  he said that is not the bet that the acetf uses he show an  example of this bettin g 25 dollar units   and saying something like i was playing this while waitng for a friend and showing a profit  with in a hour play. he is playing inside bets i have no clue after a year and a half it is a waist of time but iam not on to give up gave my mind somthing to do while recovering from a mixed martial arts fight injury. so  what im saying here is following the last result    on the inside bets  why on the inside because i asked him that question on where am i betting inside or out side he said in side go and check the thread on his email to me  on page 6 of this thread .

HansHuckebein

who of you guys works with roulette extreme or any other testing software?

HansHuckebein

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