HOW TO FIND A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET

[Ka2]

Sometimes I notice he adds sentences here and there. Yesterday I noticed this one...

"There is no secret, make a ladder and then climb it. Anyone who is not lazy can do it.
THAT'S A FACT."

Funny I'm Dutch, and in dutch ladder means "trap" Its probably nothing, but I just wanted to share this with you guys. 

[Ka2]

Also:

"As Charles our Chairman has previouly said, would all interested parties please study in particular the Roulette Table until it is 2nd nature. This will give you an immediate clarity to placing and using the bet."

I think this definitely means, we have to concentrate on the table, not the wheel, or dealers or anything...

[New Ken]

JHM, where does he specify "inside bet" ?---I think I missed that. I know he mentioned "straight betting", as opposed to progressions. Am I wrong?


Q: WHAT ARE SOME UNCONVENTIONAL WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE MOVES?

OR--- WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNCONVENTIONAL MOVES ON THE TABLE?

Keepin' the focus...

NEW KEN!

[WARRIOR]

has any one tried testing a 2 dozen bet . for 30 session

[Marven]

JHM, where does he specify "inside bet" ?---I think I missed that. I know he mentioned "straight betting", as opposed to progressions. Am I wrong?

New Ken,

Tino once asked him via email if it's an outside or inside bet, and he answered inside.

Q: WHAT ARE SOME UNCONVENTIONAL WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE MOVES?

OR--- WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNCONVENTIONAL MOVES ON THE TABLE?

To answer that, we should first find out what are the CONVENTIONAL moves.

Now let's narrow down the question.
In the questions and answers page, he said that movements mean the movements of results on the table.

So what are the conventional movements of results on the table?

He also said that it's not something that you would see at a first , nor a second glance. So it's not that anybody sees.

So...

What are the conventional movements of results on the inside of the table that an average player would see/notice?

Once we answer that, we should be able to know what those 'unconventional' movements are.

Regards,
Marven

[New Ken]

Thank you, Marven; first of all for structuring the question itself much better. Now, with the greatest respect to Tino, I prefer Hampshire's pages as the source and guide to his bet. I'll keep an open mind to Tino, of course...

So...

What ARE the conventional movements of results on the inside of the table that an average player would see/notice?

Can we seriously look into this, people...


NEW KEN

[Carpanta]

A ladder flat betting could be: bet 1 chip a dozen, 1 chip a double street and 1 chip a street. If a hit in the dozen you have a draw, a hit in the double street you win 3 chips, a hit in the street you win 9 chips. 1 dozen + 1 street + 0 sink your bets .
It could be a trap if played "conviniently" and actually i believe it is a consistent bet.

Wait a dozen is missing then play how i said before. Does it make sense?
Suppose you also take into account root numbers (streets) in their layout position along with the natural dozens.

Example: if 1st. dozen missing and root numbers 3 (1-2), 12 (10-11), 21 (19-20), 30 (28-29) are under average so play for ex. 3rd dozen, double street 13-18 and street 22-24, leaving aside street root numbers 19-21.

Another example 2nd dozen missing and root numbers 6, 15, 24, 33 are under average then play 1st dozen, double street 25-30 and street 34-36.

Remember that root number 3 12 21 30 are 1st dozen half numbers
                                     6 15 24 33 are 2nd dozen half numbers
                                     9 18 27 36 are 3rd dozen half numbers

It is a guess like most of the ideas ive been reading in this thread.

Cheers,
Carlos.

[New Ken]

Carpanta says:

"A ladder flat betting could be: bet 1 chip a dozen, 1 chip a double street and 1 chip a street. If a hit in the dozen you have a draw, a hit in the double street you win 3 chips, a hit in the street you win 9 chips. 1 dozen + 1 street + 0 sink your bets .
It could be a trap if played "conviniently" and actually i believe it is a consistent bet.

Wait a dozen is missing then play how i said before. Does it make sense?"


Been thinking a bit along those lines myself, carpanta---bets within bets (Hampshire says "a bet within a bet", though).

The only part of his bet that suggests waiting is when he mentions a dummy bet to "while away the time". Also, he says "we know where to bet every spin of the wheel", and some other stuff.

I think he's playing he's playing every spin in his sessions.

[mistarlupo]

Marven,

Okay, well, here's my suggestion on this...

Tino has recently made an interesting proposition in this regard.

could it mean that something should happen more often but it doesn't to quote him, mean that every number should come out every   37 spins but it doesn't.just a thought.

Well, we could say the very same thing about every single bet in roulette...
But I think this is the right direction where we should go to look for the answer.

What are the conventional movements of results on the inside of the table that an average player would see/notice?

So, in my opinion, we can determine the "movements" on the table using a certain number of previous spins.
And then our bets depend on these numbers, or movements. Maybe I should think of an example...

Hm, maybe may explanation was not good enough, but hopefully it makes some sense.

Regards,
m

[madupz4]

Thank you, Marven; first of all for structuring the question itself much better. Now, with the greatest respect to Tino, I prefer Hampshire's pages as the source and guide to his bet. I'll keep an open mind to Tino, of course...

So...

What ARE the conventional movements of results on the inside of the table that an average player would see/notice?

Can we seriously look into this, people...


NEW KEN

I have been thinking about an "unconventional bet/movement" also.  I would think that a "conventional" bet is simply any dozen, column, split, street, line etc....

I would think an "unconventional bet" is a combination of one or more of the above bets, which makes it a "win within a win" or a "trap."

For example:  You bet the 2nd and third dozen (1 unit each) then also 1 unit on black and 1 unit on odd.  If you look at the first dozen 4 out of 5 of the Red numbers are odd, and 4 of the 5 numbers are even.  So any number that is RED or ODD in dozen 2 and dozen 3 will win 1 or 2 units.  I am NOT saying this is the bet, but only an example of what I think he means by "unconventional betting."

[Marven]

Marven,

Okay, well, here's my suggestion on this...

Tino has recently made an interesting proposition in this regard.
Well, we could say the very same thing about every single bet in roulette...
But I think this is the right direction where we should go to look for the answer.

So, in my opinion, we can determine the "movements" on the table using a certain number of previous spins.
And then our bets depend on these numbers, or movements. Maybe I should think of an example...

Hm, maybe may explanation was not good enough, but hopefully it makes some sense.

Nice shot Mistarlupo.

So if we apply this idea to streets for example:

The thing that should normally/theoretically happen is that every street should show once every 12 spins. Therefore all streets should show every 12 spins cycle.

But we all know that this is NOT the case, due to the nature of randomness.

Hmmm...

[Carpanta]

Been thinking a bit along those lines myself, carpanta---bets within bets (Hampshire says "a bet within a bet", though).

The only part of his bet that suggests waiting is when he mentions a dummy bet to "while away the time". Also, he says "we know where to bet every spin of the wheel", and some other stuff.

I think he's playing he's playing every spin in his sessions.

He must have triggers for the big money bets while using dummy bets just to be participative during those "dull" spins and maybe so as not distort results.
Besides, it is not easy to lose 6 bets in a row covering 24 numbers. He says most of the time he has a hit in the second spin.
Playing a dozen you can lose 6 in a row without having a headache.  On the other hand it doesn't make much sense to play a dozen for six spins flat betting. But playing a double street you have a draw in the 6th bet.  

[New Ken]

Madzup, Marven, everyone--I think we're on the right track.

[WARRIOR]

new ken convetional moves  .become a beginer in roulette , what do you see on the table black red  odd even numbers and so on. he wants people to  know the table and where every thing is because  so many have no clue even people that have been playing for years  im a barber by trade i had this dealer in my chair one time i was picking is brain about roulette  and i ask him if dealers were capable of shooting sectors he said no, there i new he had no clue  i believe they can ,its a carnaval game  the more you practis the better you become  but you have  to want to do that he had no clue on were the numbers on the wheel were ,accept for the 0 26 and 32 were.i think that thi is what charles means  . people have no clue that you can make a street bet line bet and so on. now 1st page what should happen in roulette more often but it dosent every number show with in 37 spins correct .but in reality it does not. now what if  he  looking at results and notice that lets say 19 20 21  22 23 24 line came up how many times  do you think the line would reapeat.  6 in a row on ocassion  may be  so lets say that line reapeats 2 in a row and then we wait with no spin for 3 more spins and then bet   on the other 5 lines for one unit for  2 spins  .  the no win no loss means waiting for that cycle to end i think.bet with in a bet  could mean betiing the 5 line  split staight up numbers all at once he did say you can bet quite heavly .and its an iside bet .the runs and changes come from watching the cycles i think marven mentioned something along that line. and looking for lw  registry.cheers tino.

[New Ken]

WHERE does he mention INSIDE BETS in his pages??



Marven, for me, THIS is the question(below) we should be asking:


Q: What are the conventional movements of results on the table that an average player would    see/notice?

[New Ken]

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