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Started by JHM, November 28, 2008, 01:47:41 PM

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Marven

Hi JHM,

Sure, I'm not saying we should play the G.U.T. mate.
Just though we might have a look at the tracking of numbers used in the G.U.T. maybe we could find our 'movements' there. That's all. :)

For those who are not familiar with such tracking, here is what you need to know:

We have 3 groups
0
1
and >1

0 is the group of numbers that haven't showed yet.
1 is the group of numbers that showed only once.
>1 is the group of numbers that showed more than once.

It's that simple.

So if we sort them like this: 0,1,>1
The movement of results on the table during a session should go from 37,0,0 to 0,0,37.

But we can't predict how exactly this will happen, I'm thinking maybe there is a way to trap that movement in a way that wins more than it loses. Maybe (for example) we can calculate the possibilities for each spin and bet on the most probable one, and quit as soon as profit is shown.

Take it easy guys, I'm just brainstorming. :)

Here is one session I copied from somewhere. Any ideas?


0   1   >1
----------
36   1   0   
35   2   0   
34   3   0   
33   4   0   
32   5   0   
31   6   0   
31   5   1   
30   6   1   
29   7   1   
28   8   1   
27   9   1   
27   8   2   
27   7   3   
26   8   3   
25   9   3   
25   8   4   
25   7   5   
24   8   5 
23   9   5   
22   10   5   
22   9   6   
22   9   6   
21   10   6   
20   11   6   
19   12   6   
18   13   6   
17   14   6   
17   14   6   
16   15   6   
16   14   7   
15   15   7   
15   14   8   
15   13   9   
15   12   10   
15   12   10   
15   12   10   
14   13   10   
14   13   10   
14   13   10   
14   13   10   
14   12   11   
14   11   12   
14   11   12   
13   12   12   
12   13   12   
11   14   12   
10   15   12   
10   14   13   
10   14   13   
10   14   13   
10   14   13   
10   13   14 
9   14   14 
9   14   14   
9   13   15   
9   12   16   
9   11   17   
9   11   17   
9   11   17   
9   11   17   
9   10   18
9   9   19 
9   9   19   
9   9   19   
9   8   20   
9   8   20   
9   8   20   
9   7   21   
9   7   21   
8   8   21   
8   8   21   
8   7   22   
8   7   22   
8   6   23   

Do you see the movement, from left to right?
The numbers tend to always move from left to right.

Regards,
Marven

Marven

As you see there are 'runs' when a group tends to hit consecutively, and there are changes, when a group is waving between hitting and missing.

Just another interpretation of Charles words.

Cheers,
Marven

JHM

Quote from: Marven on January 25, 2009, 11:13:18 AM

0   1   >1
----------
36   1   0   
35   2   0   
34   3   0   
33   4   0   
32   5   0   
31   6   0   
31   5   1   
30   6   1   
29   7   1   
28   8   1   
27   9   1   
27   8   2   
27   7   3   
26   8   3   
25   9   3   
25   8   4   
25   7   5   
24   8   5 
23   9   5   
22   10   5   
22   9   6   
22   9   6   
21   10   6   
20   11   6   
19   12   6   
18   13   6   
17   14   6   
17   14   6   
16   15   6   
16   14   7   
15   15   7  Here crossing one, what would you bet? This is a though one, normally Winkel's advice is to play 0 If I'm correct. If play 0, lose both bets, play 1 win directly.
15   14   8   
15   13   9   
15   12   10   
15   12   10   
15   12   10   
14   13   10  New bet, all three bets would be lost. 0 or 1.
14   13   10   
14   13   10   
14   13   10   
14   12   11  Bet 1, win
14   11   12   
14   11   12   
13   12   12  opportunity. Could bet al three here
12   13   12  Now chance, 0vs1> and 1vs1> 
11   14   12   
10   15   12   
10   14   13  New bet opportunity, all bets would have lost
10   14   13   
10   14   13   
10   14   13   
10   13   14 
9   14   14  New bet opportunity
9   14   14   
9   13   15   
9   12   16   
9   11   17   
9   11   17   
9   11   17   
9   11   17   
9   10   18


Do you see the movement, from left to right?
The numbers tend to always move from left to right.

Regards,
Marven

Marven,

I cut some example's out for people who don't know G.U.T.

What I have noticed while playing:

When the table goes like this

0   1

23
22
22
21
20
19 18
18 17

In the example above the numbers that have hit 0, follow up fast. Than the bet opportunity is great to bet the 0.

JHM


WARRIOR

jhm try this one i testsd this one before going to vegas in november 3000 spins but there is a trigger for this one flat bet did ok but did not give big profit  1s and 2s  line 1-6 13 -18  25-30 are ones  and the rest of the lines are 2s  when one comes up bet bet the ones and when 2s come up bet 2s that simple.using the results to give the movement on the table.

WARRIOR

 ka 2 one bet at a time not 5 and 200 spins its not enough to scatch the surfis.

redhot

Iv been thinking along these lines:

If the last number was Red and Odd, then the next number has 4 possible outcomes:

Red and Odd - - - "Perfect Run"
Red and Even - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"
Black and Odd - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"
Black and Even - - - "Perfect Change"

Now Charles says we need to trap the runs AND the changes (But not all)

I think this "But not all" comment is very important

Obviously we cant bet all 4 combinations as this would cover all 36 numbers, so we need to leave out atleast one, possibly two of them

Ok so which ones do we bet?

We need to trap the runs so we've got to play the "perfect run". To cover all possible runs we will need to cover the two "1/2 runs, 1/2 changes" aswell, thus leaving out the "Perfect change".

Playing like this we have covered all possible "runs" and some but "not all" of the possible "changes".


WARRIOR


pighead

Perfect change does not occurr as often as other two


pighead

I am not sure how much time you guys have everyday working on this one?

anybody interested in collaberative effort to test out 3000 spins?

we can exchange and post the test result so that we can verify the any new idea more quickly..

cheers

PH


WARRIOR

red hot you gave me an idea im not overly excited  yet but her goes ,ok charles does say  a bet with in a bet , and we have to use our bet to to fit in with the weakest part of the bet so the perect run that would be the strongest part of the bet so we 2 units on the perfect run, and 1 unit on the perfect change giving us a no win no loss on the half run and change ,and he does mention the single o wheel with the enprison rule . what do you think.

pighead

thanks Maven..

I am using Dublin everyday and not sure if there is any other live online casino recommanded?

Marven

Here is something:

If R+E shows, bet on the 8 B+O numbers inside the table.
R+O shows, bet on the 10 B+E numbers inside the table.
B+E shows, bet on the 10 R+O numbers inside the table.
B+O shows, bet on the 8 R+E numbers inside the table.

A session from Hamburg spins, ended with +120 profit:

B  O  
R  O  
B  E  
R  E  
R  O  
R  O  
B  E
B  E
B  E  
B  E  
R  O  
B  O  
R  O  
B  O  
R  O  
B  E  
R  E  
R  O  
B  E  
B  O  
R  E  
B  O  
R  E  
R  E  
B  O  
B  O  
B  O  
zero              
R  E  
B  O  
R  O
R  E  
R  O  
B  E  
R  E  
R  O
B  O
B  E  
R  O  
R  O  
R  O  
B  E  
R  O  
R  O  
R  O  
B  O
R  O
R  O
B  E
B  O
B  O

Though I personally don't believe this kind of bets will ever win in the long run.

Cheers,
Marven

Marven

Quote from: pighead on January 25, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
I am using Dublin everyday and not sure if there is any other live online casino recommanded?

I use Joyland's live dealer and it's pretty fine as well.

Cheers,
Marven

Marven

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