HOW TO FIND A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET

[pighead]

Charles, go give it a try man!!

[pighead]

Here is something:

If R+E shows, bet on the 8 B+O numbers inside the table.
R+O shows, bet on the 10 B+E numbers inside the table.
B+E shows, bet on the 10 R+O numbers inside the table.
B+O shows, bet on the 8 R+E numbers inside the table.

A session from Hamburg spins, ended with +120 profit:

B  O  
R  O  
B  E  
R  E  
R  O  
R  O  
B  E
B  E
B  E  
B  E  
R  O  
B  O  
R  O  
B  O  
R  O  
B  E  
R  E  
R  O  
B  E  
B  O  
R  E  
B  O  
R  E  
R  E  
B  O  
B  O  
B  O  
zero              
R  E  
B  O  
R  O
R  E  
R  O  
B  E  
R  E  
R  O
B  O
B  E  
R  O  
R  O  
R  O  
B  E  
R  O  
R  O  
R  O  
B  O
R  O
R  O
B  E
B  O
B  O

Though I personally don't believe this kind of bets will ever win in the long run.

Cheers,
Marven

Marven, betting on the total opposite won't win in the long run. I have come to the same conclusion.. but try what I mentioned, leave out the total opposite (10 or 8 Nos)

[Marven]

the perfect change does not occurr as often as other two.. that's a fact based on what I have seen..

I agree.

[WARRIOR]

pighead what am i testing

[redhot]

Charles, You will be excited if you did some tests on this one.. I already did but not close to 3000 spins yet..go give it a try man!!

the perfect change does not occurr as often as other two.. that's a fact based on what I have seen..

Are you testing what I mentioned betting all possible outcomes except the "perfect change" ?

[Marven]

If the last number was Red and Odd, then the next number has 4 possible outcomes:

Red and Odd - - - "Perfect Run"
Red and Even - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"
Black and Odd - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"
Black and Even - - - "Perfect Change"

We need to trap the runs so we've got to play the "perfect run". To cover all possible runs we will need to cover the two "1/2 runs, 1/2 changes" as well, thus leaving out the "Perfect change".

Playing like this we have covered all possible "runs" and some but "not all" of the possible "changes".

Redhot,

So in this case we should bet on:
Red and Odd - - - "Perfect Run"
Red and Even - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"
Black and Odd - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"

Those would all make 26 numbers, right?

[Carlitos]

... i just had an look at Spielbank Hamburg. Leaving out the opposite..... still it changes quite often...... 








Carlitos 

[pighead]

Yes I did some since New Ken's last posting.. I did not do EC bet but use selective Nos..

I did  too less then 3000 spins to draw a conclusion..

Give it a try youself and let's exchange our test results..

[pighead]

 
Dude, please run a few 100s' spin test and post your results.

watching can't let you go any else

[redhot]

Redhot,

So in this case we should bet on:
Red and Odd - - - "Perfect Run"
Red and Even - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"
Black and Odd - - -"1/2 Run, 1/2 Change"

Those would all make 26 numbers, right?

correct, of course a win would be +10 while a loss would be -26, therefore we need 3 times more wins then losses.

[Marven]

correct, of course a win would be +10 while a loss would be -26, therefore we need 3 times more wins then losses.

Ok then I'm afraid this won't work mate. I'm no math guru but here is why I think it won't hold up in the long run:

We have 4 groups:
B+O = 8 numbers
R+O = 10 numbers
B+E = 10 numbers
R+E = 8 numbers

Every time, we bet on 3 groups and leave out 1.

To calculate the average of our placed bet, we do:
8+10+10+8 = 36

36/4 = 9

9x3 = 27 (3 is the number of groups we bet every time)

So every time we are betting on an average of 27 numbers (with an average win of +9 and an average loss of -27).

As Charles confirmed, past spins don't matter, and every spin is independent. So using this bet in the long run is the same as flat-betting on any 27 numbers, which will lose eventually.

All my tests confirmed this so far, that's why I said that these bets won't go anywhere. I'm talking about the Red/Black/Even/Odd/Dozen/Column...etc kind of bets.

That's why I've been turning to the movements of number results with binomial distribution and hot vs. cold numbers stuff, etc. Somehow I think that's where we should be looking for now, but that's just me.

Cheers,
Marven

[pighead]

Marven,

Did you record all the spins? If so , please send them to me..

thanks

PH

[pighead]

Hi All,

Marven and I have come up with the same idea of organizing a working group to find Charles's bet:

As far as I concern,

1. more brains will bring more ideas;
2. Collebarative effort will help us to verify any new idea more quickly and save us a lot of time. If we have ten ppls, 3000 spins can be done in 1 or 2 days at the rate of 300 Spins per person per day.
3. No effort, no gain. Personally, I already spent nights and days finding Charles' bet, only the ppls making effort deserve Charles's bet.

All the contributor of the working group will
1.  propose new idea and be responsible for testing and sharing our test results.
2.  contribute to perfect the consist winning bet with lost recovery and MM strategies.


Not matter if we succeed or not, we will gain:

1.If so, we will share the porfit and also ideally, we could form a team like Charles did too:
living a lifestyle we like, bringing happiness to your families  and helping out those children/ppls in need.
2. If not, we still earn the best and sincere friendship in the internet.

Please PM us if you are interested to join..

Cheers
PH 

[redhot]

Hi All,

Marven and I have come up with the same idea of organizing a working group to find Charles's bet:

As far as I concern,

1. more brains will bring more ideas;
2. Collebarative effort will help us to verify any new idea more quickly and save us a lot of time. If we have ten ppls, 3000 spins can be done in 1 or 2 days at the rate of 300 Spins per person per day.
3. No effort, no gain. Personally, I already spent nights and days finding Charles' bet, only the ppls making effort deserve Charles's bet.

All the contributor of the working group will
1.  propose new idea and be responsible for testing and sharing our test results.
2.  contribute to perfect the consist winning bet with lost recovery and MM strategies.


Not matter if we succeed or not, we will gain:

1.If so, we will share the porfit and also ideally, we could form a team like Charles did too:
living a lifestyle we like, bringing happiness to your families  and helping out those children/ppls in need.
2. If not, we still earn the best and sincere friendship in the internet.

Please PM us if you are interested to join..

Cheers
PH 

Excellent idea pighead, count me in

[redhot]

Marven,

Did you record all the spins? If so , please send them to me..

thanks

PH

Pighead, I have just set up an excel file which shows the movement of spins, eg perfect run, perfect change etc..
Will send it if your interested.

[redhot]

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