Ronjo's 3 Group System.

[Clothdog]

hi Lanky,
check out these spins from a recent casino trip. this is a 00 wheel. no rng here.
I seemed to start losing quite abit in the middle and did not recover.
25
13
9  ..play grp 2
2  ..win
19
22
10 play grp 3
34 win
35
34
31 play grp 2
36 L
15 L
17 L
21 W
15
15
2  PLAY GRP 3
31 L
25 L
4  W
23
26
3  PLAY GRP 1
22 L
28 L
27 L
3  L..STOP
9 
1 
23 PLAY GRP 3? BECAUSE IT FINALLY SHOWED?
15 L
29 L
15 L
1  L..STOP
23
20
30 PLAY GRP 1 ? OR DOMINANT GRP? CONFUSION HERE. IF PLAY DOMINANT
6  L
19 L
36 L
27 W
31
33
25 GO BACK TO START PLAYING LEAST..GROUP 1
20 L
34 L
35 L
20 L..STOP
7 
5 
17 ..PLAY GRP 2
33 L
17 L
29 W
17
2 
12 PLAY GRP 3
20 L
14 L
25 L
22 L..STOP
33
11
7  PLAY DOMINANT HERE..GRP 3
16 L
31 L
1  L
33 W
26
8 
35 ...PLAY LEAST BECAUSE #26 SHOWED
11 L
20 W
Is this the way to play? not a good showing and seems to me I have confusion when to go back and change groups or what point I change groups. Is it after 4 losses and switch to dominant group or if the cold group shows back up again in your next 3 spins?
thans.
cd

[TwoCatSam]

Lanky, Ronjo and all.....

I am dry testing this with numbers Track4 saves to disk.  (Another great feature of that program!)

Needless to say, if---forever---the thing held up the way it has over about 100 spins, well, you know!

I will scan and post sheets when I get home. 

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Lanky

Ran into a strange trot.  Can I run this past you for your consultation?  I will show how and why I played it.

18-1
11-1
14-1
30-3...I bet for the missing, 2.
34-3..L1
13-1..L2
16-1..L3
33-3..L4...Since I have no dominant in my four losers (3,1,1,3), I went with the 1 for two reasons:  1.  Lots of 1s in the past; it is dominant.  2.  Just looking at the last four 1 is the fartherest back.  So I carry on betting 1.
21-2..L5...Here the 2 I was seeking comes back into the fray.  Do I continue to bet on the 1 or switch back to the 2?  Here's what happened.
6-3..L6
17-1..W!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

I've just finished  mind-numbingly boring test of well over 200 spins in a trot.  This thing went six L in a row one time and 5 L a couple more.  The progression Lanky outlined would handle that easily.

I'll scan and post the sheets Monday or Tuesday.

Sam

[Lanky]

hi Lanky,

Hi Mate
No problems I will put my reply in blue for You Cobber
It will look a bit messy with your comments there as well but this way you will be able to see the difference Mate.

check out these spins from a recent casino trip. this is a 00 wheel. no rng here.
I seemed to start losing quite abit in the middle and did not recover.
25
13
9  ..play grp 2
2  ..win bet 1= +{24}Profit
19
22
10 play grp 3
34 win bet 1=+24=24={48}profit
35
34
31 play grp 2
36 L bet 1 lost
15 L bet 1 lost
17 L bet1 lost
21 W bet 2 win 12+48={60} profit (Ronjo says to go home here)
15
15
2  PLAY GRP 3
31 L bet 1 lost
25 L bet 1 lost
4  W bet 1=Even & a carry over Profit total of {60}
23
26
3  PLAY GRP 1
22 L Bet 1 lost
28 L Bet 1 lost
27 L Bet1 lost
3  L.. Bet 2 lost STOP <<correct
But now because You have lost 4 straight bets on the Due You now turn & bet the Dominant from the last 3 spins.
Which in this case was 2 2 3 =G2 Dominant

9-Lost  Bet 2 lost
1-Lost  <<G1 now back in play after we finish betting these dominant bets  < Bet 3 lost
23 PLAY GRP 3? BECAUSE IT FINALLY SHOWED? <<Won bet on Dominant G2 Bet 111223(4) <<winning bet
So its 111223(4)=14 out –less 12 back= Minus 2 like this 1-1

Call on 3 numbers to find the Due Group
15 L <no bet G1
29 L <no bet G2
15 L <no bet G1

Group 3 Now DUE
1  L..STOP Lost bet 1
23=Lost bet 2
20 =Lost bet 2
30 PLAY GRP 1 ? OR DOMINANT GRP? CONFUSION HERE. IF PLAY DOMINANT <<This Bet won CD as it G3
So its now 11122(3)=10 out- less 9= Minus 1

Call on 3 more numbers

6  L <no bet G3
19 L <no bet G1
36 L <no bet G3

Group 2 Now DUE

27 W- = Win bet 1(1)=2 out –3 back=+12+60 from before ={72} profit

Call on 3 more numbers

31-G1
33 –G3
25 –G2 GO BACK TO START PLAYING LEAST..GROUP 1

Group 1 Now DUE <<correct

20 L-G2 bet 1 lost
34 L-G3 bet 1 lost
35 L-G3 bet 1 lost
20 L..G2  bet 2 lost STOP  <<correct
Now turn & play the dominant from the Last 3 spins which were 332.
So Group 3 is now Dominant

7-G3 <<win here 
Bets are 1112(2)=7 out- less 6 back- minus 1

Call on 3 more

5 –G3
17 –G1.PLAY GRP 2 <<Group 1 has come back into play as we are calling on so we will bet the Due at the end of the call on.
33 L-G3


So its gone 3 1 1= G2 DUE

17- G1 L Bet lost

29 W <<we win Here bet 11(1)=3 out –less 3 back=Even & a carry over progit of +{72}

Call on 3 more for the DUE

17
2 
12 PLAY GRP 3  << correct

20 L bet 1
14 L bet 1
25 L bet 1
22 L..bet 2 STOP  <<correct
Now turn & play the dominant from the Last 3 spins which were 122
So G2 is the Dominant
33-G3=Lost bet 2<<<G1 now back in play after we finish betting these dominant bets

11-G1=Lost bet 2
7 –G3= Lost bet 3  PLAY DOMINANT HERE..GRP 3
16 L=G Lost bet 4
Now back to The DUE.

So we call on 3 more numbers

31 L <<G1
1  L <<G1
33 W <<G3

Group 2 is now Due

26  <<Win here

So the bets are 1 1 12 2 3 4 (5)=19 out –less 15 back= Minus 5
Like this
1112=(2)is the next bet

Call on 3 more

8  <<G3
35 <<G3...PLAY LEAST BECAUSE #26 SHOWED
11 <<G1 L

Group 2 is Due again

20 W <<win Here

Bets are 1112(2)=7 out –less 6 back is minus 12+72 profit={60} total Profit overall.

Is this the way to play? not a good showing and seems to me I have confusion when to go back and change groups or what point I change groups. Is it after 4 losses and switch to dominant group <<yes correct Mate. or if the cold group shows back up again in your next 3 spins?
thans.
cd

Your Friend

Lanky.

[Wally Gator]

clothdog,

Just a quick note to say that if you follow exactly what Lanky is teaching, you will find this to work exceptionally well.  I have been having many sessions similar to yours thinking something didn't play right.  But, once I've run them by Lanky I found what I've done wrong and realize it's not the system at all, but what I did that screwed it up.  I am still working to get the system down so I don't have to think about it at all, it just comes through normal play.  I can honestly say I have not seen anything like it and if you follow exactly what Lanky (or Ronjo) show you, you will undoubtedly leave far many more times a winner and find success in the long term.  I am very confident this will be the case in my situation and look forward to writing about it here.

As a side note, do you know the ancient Chinese proverb: "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" ?  If you believe this, you are sending your notes to the right guy.

Best, Gator

[Lanky]

Sam

Yes Mate Not such a good start Cobber,


18-1
11-1
14-1
30-3...I bet for the missing, 2.

Yes G2 is now due

34-3..L1
13-1..L2
16-1..L3
33-3..L4.

Now You pick the Dominant Group from the THREE last spins.
In this case it is 113=G1 is the Dominant Group

21-G2-lost
6-G3-lost
17 G1 –Won

The betting would have gone this way Sam
111223(4) <<is the winning bet.
So its
1112234=14 out –less 12 back=Minus 2
And in you betting Registry it would now look like this

1-1-(1) <<is the next bet

Your Mate .

Lanky.

[TwoCatSam]

Lanky

I gots me threes and fours mixed up.  Time to make a 3x5 rules card.  Thanks!

That was midway through the trot.  It actually went quite well throughout.

Sam

[hoper35]

If I had of played this yesterday @ Fallsview:
19 - 1
25 - 2
18 - 1 play 3
14 - 1 lose
3   - 3 win
11 - 1
19 - 1
22 - 2 play 3
4  - 3 win
18 - 1
9  - 3
14 - 1 play 2
31 - 1 lose
21 - 2 win
34 - 3
31 - 1
30 - 3 play 2
14 - 1 lose
0  - ignore (win with 0/00 split)
17 - 1 lose
34 - 3 lose
18 - 1 lose - 4th loss - switch to 1
17 - 1 win
24 - 2
36 - 3
9  - 3 play 1
14 - 1 win
23 - 2
15 - 1
23 - 2 play 3
4  - 3 win
9  - 3
24 - 2
19 - 1
23 - 2 play 3
33 - 3 win
5  - 3
36 - 3

I would have done quite well using this method.  I was at even, with my own method, when I quit recording the above (I won $275 later).

Shows promise.
Ron.

[hoper35]

Sounds promising.  Has similar groupings been developed for the American wheel?


Ron.

Hi Ron.

Betting the same way Wally & I ran through nearly 500 spins today on a Double zero wheel.
He bet 0/00 split with every bet.
It came up a few times too.

Lanky.

Thanks, Lanky.

I quite often add the 0/00 split, too.  Hate to get beat by those zeroes.


Ron.

[Lanky]

@ Ron.

Yes Mate I learnt a long time ago to make the Zero or at least part of it My Friend.

Now Guys.

As most of You know I always record the 1st 20 numbers that come out on the Display board.

And I go right back to the 1st number & work this out from there as I do with the Lw Method.

By the time I get to the end there is nearly always a pattern of either DUE or Dominant present.

No Pattern....No bet.

Now for those that don't have many numbers that they can see straight away.
Like out here on Air-ball we only get to see the last 7 numbers.

Then I would suggest that You wait until there is a Virtual win before you start betting.

I am just trying to help thats all by telling You how or what I do.
More importantly is what I have seen that causes the most problems & How to get around it to some degree.

Lanky.

[djroulette]

Lanky my freind what sort of bankroll are we looking at when playing this system??? how many units??? would you consider 500 as a safe start??

dj

[MXkid77]

I just did this quick, may be some help for those using the system online. It's my first major excel code, and so far i don't see any bugs. I am open to suggestions on improving it, i would like to see it being able to tell when to bet and list the progression to be used. But, still a lot more studying on excel before then.

In the members downloads:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile;id=262

[Lanky]

Lanky my freind what sort of bankroll are we looking at when playing this system??? how many units??? would you consider 500 as a safe start??

dj

Hi Dj.

My Mate this is what Ronjo says to have as a bank.

Required Bankroll:

$1 = $100 + $150 backup
$5 = $500 + $750 backup
$10 = $1000 + $1500 backup
$25 = $2500 + $3750 backup

Me Personally I would recommend a 500 unit Bank.
EG;
50c=$250
$1=$500
But then again thats just Me.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

[djroulette]

Any stop loss requirements you would recomend as well??? i was thinking stop on loss of 30% of bank and aim for 10% profit?? what you think

dj

[djroulette]

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