Why a new system/strategy is found

[winkel]

This could be part of the new section "Dark side" but I think it belongs to the framework:

[highlight]Why a new system ist found![/highlight]

Everyone who found something knows it:

Start:
First you look at spins and you try to find any kind of rhythm/deviation/something else.
Then you find one.
Then you put a strategy on it.

Follow up:
Then you test it.
Then you put some progression on it.
Then you (or KFS  ) does a million spins test on it.

If in the "Start" section you don´t find anything
If in the "Start" section it starts losing at once
If in the "Follow up" section the progression kills you on the first day

You just throw away your idea.

So why do we find a strategy? [highlight]"Just because it works at that moment!"[/highlight]
So why do we throw winning strategies away: [highlight]"Just because it loses at this moment"[/highlight]

Why do we not go and play a strategy, when it is winning and change to the other when the first one starts losing?
Why don´t we keep that losing strategy in mind and wait until there is a a streak we find it winning?

What if the losing one is changing directly with winning one?
couldn´t we beat the house-edge which means we can beat the game?

a lot of questions. what do YOU think about it?

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winkel

[Proofreaders2000]

Why do we not go and play a strategy, when it is winning and change to the other when the first one starts losing?
Why don´t we keep that losing strategy in mind and wait until there is a a streak we find it winning?

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winkel

That's always been the challenge for bettors and system designers.  Creating a "foolproof" system.
As many tests as can be taken, God only knows what the wheel's gonna do each session.

[TwoCatSam]

winkel

I found such a system two years ago.  I noticed that when a color or any EC was a singleton on the board, bet for it to become a doubleton.  Example:

My marquee had ten spins....

[colors]
R
B
B
R
B
R
B
B
R
B
[/colors]

Notice in the above, the red is always a single.  After 10 spins and the next appearance of red, I bet for two reds in a row.  I have watched this phenomenon over the past three years at several wheels.  You will rarely have this happen five times in a row and I did use a progression on it.  This is something I noticed in the "Start" segment.

I realize there is no reason why this should work and maybe I was just lucky.  Just posted to show how an idea forms; it was just from watching the marquee.

Sam

[enrique malou]

Winkel, you pose some good questions.

If we knew what the wheel was going to throw at us, we would not need a system. So any player needs to be careful and not get stuck playing a rigid system design.

I was tracking a system in the casino the other day which bets 30 numbers.  After about 100 spins, I would have lost nearly 200 units if I had played it.  Someone else could be playing the very same system on another table opposite me and be winning 200 units after 100 spins. The question I would be asking is this? Are you going to sit there and watch your bankroll dissapear as if it is like a runaway train. That leads me to also ask do I need to be betting on every spin? As much as we all like to win, it is also important to preserve our chips if we can to take advantage when some good luck comes our way. Speaking for myself, I will go to a casino and be prepared to sit there and watch a few hundred spins looking for what looks like a strong deviation. If something is not working, then there is normally something else that is. In the example above, the thirty numbers were not appearing. This was a good opportunity because the other 7 were hitting at an extremely high rate. I would have just needed to put down  7 chips a spin.
I have used the software Roulette Extreme a lot lately looking at bankroll trends going up and down and one thing that struck me is that often you can get a long period where something is going straight up or straight down, then it starts to level out and starts going up and down pretty much the same, but once it hits the extreme again, it either starts going straight up or down again. So say a system is tanking and it reaches -100. then it does a zig zag back to -80, then back down to -90 and hovers between the 2. then it goes back to the extreme of -100 again and quickly works all the way down to -130.  If you have the time and can look for these deviations, then you can take advantage. The trick is how many different methods or trends can you follow at the same time to spot the deviations and try and take advantage. Also it is not an excact science and nothing is guaranteed to continue for even 1 more spin. There is a good reason why it's called gambling.

regards

enrique

[hoper35]

Sam, one of my bets is like what you describe - only with the dozens instead of even chances. 


Ron.

[Lanky]

@Sam.

My Mate thats nearly how I come to develop My Evens System approx 10 years ago now.

My Friend & I was was betting for a Double to come on either colour.
The Bloody thing went over 20 times in a Row Red ,Black ,Red ,Black ETC.

I swore that day that I would develop a way so that could never happen to Me again.
And it hasn't either.....I win every 2nd spin when it does that to Me now if I am playing it.

In Your example there Sam I would either win every bet on Black after the Red hit.
Or if it was trending the other way I would win the 1st or 2nd bet on the Red after the black hit.

@ hoper35.

Hi Mate it was April 2007 and I decided to give Victor's Lw Method a try.

The same One that most of the Geniuses over on GG said would not work.

I adapted to it Easy because I was already playing Dozens & Columns which I have since come to know as the Jump Dozen thanks to Victor's Teaching.

And the 1st dozen was sleeping at the time in this particular Session.
I was playing the LD So every time it (the 1st Dozen)came up on the rare occasion that it did I just jumped over it & played the other 2 Dozens.
I won 24 out of 29 bets before it hit twice in a row & I stopped.
I have never seen a run like that again.

But I like Your Idea Mate.....I will have a closer look at it.
Have you got a link to the way You Play it .??

Good On Ya Mates.

Lanky.

[TwoCatSam]

Lanky

This:  And the 1st dozen was sleeping at the time in this particular Session.
I was playing the LD So every time it (the 1st Dozen)came up on the rare occasion that it did I just jumped over it & played the other 2 Dozens.
I won 24 out of 29 bets before it hit twice in a row & I stopped.
I have never seen a run like that again....: is a system I bought!  I paid $40 for it in 2006 or 7.  It can be very effective when the LD is working for you.  The author advises using a three-step martingale and you will win many of them.  Naturally, when you hit the wall you give all or most back.  What we really need is an electronic wall-sniffing device to alert us when we're getting close!

Have you ever published your Evens System?  If so, could you link it? 

Your Pal in sunny Oklahoma.

Samster

[TwoCatSam]

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