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System based purely in Maths

Started by gingermolloy, January 02, 2009, 01:14:30 PM

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gingermolloy

Lets forget about explanations for now!

I would like to concentrate on whether this system works!

If it does, i will explain why! and how i came to it.

If it fails I will smash my house up and spit my dummy out!

Then we can explore why it failed.

To the tests please!

I have never seen this fail ever!

Does everyone get what i am doing??

madupz4

Quote from: gingermolloy on January 10, 2009, 09:12:16 PM
Lets forget about explanations for now!

I would like to concentrate on whether this system works!

If it does, i will explain why! and how i came to it.

If it fails I will smash my house up and spit my dummy out!

Then we can explore why it failed.

To the tests please!

I have never seen this fail ever!

Does everyone get what i am doing??

You've never seen it failed in how many tests?  How often do you play your method?  Do you regularly play and win with this system at real casino's?

What is your profits to date?

gingermolloy

Quote from: madupz4 on January 10, 2009, 09:33:32 PM
You've never seen it failed in how many tests?  How often do you play your method?  Do you regularly play and win with this system at real casino's?

What is your profits to date?

Im not dumb enough to have put real money on this yet, but i have done it on say 500 spins and it has never failed.

I dont have any software to do it without acually going through it all myself.

It seems to work on Random numbers and real spins

can you help?

TwoCatSam

Guys

I'd like to discuss one thing, and I'm not too good at math.  Ginger wrote in reply #89:

"If i win on the first spin the payout is £7.20 (£0.20 x 36) Therefore £7 profit. (£7 per spin)" 

Here he is betting 20 pence on--not one--but ten numbers.  Yes, for the hitting number the math is right.  What about the nine that lost?  9 x 20 = 180 or 1P 80p.  So didn't the win amount to 7 - 1.80 or 5.2?

Sam

geoff365


gingermolloy

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 10, 2009, 10:30:05 PM
Guys

I'd like to discuss one thing, and I'm not too good at math.  Ginger wrote in reply #89:

"If i win on the first spin the payout is £7.20 (£0.20 x 36) Therefore £7 profit. (£7 per spin)"

Here he is betting 20 pence on--not one--but ten numbers.  Yes, for the hitting number the math is right.  What about the nine that lost?  9 x 20 = 180 or 1P 80p.  So didn't the win amount to 7 - 1.80 or 5.2?

Sam

You are right!

working on the numbers now.

I thought the beginning of the progression looked a little odd

ginger

hoper35

Just ran it through 100 spins, from Wild Jack's Live Wheel.

13 betting series - all series were won.
Average of 3.9 bets to get a win.

Interesting.  Will have to try it with some of my B&M spins.

Ron. 

Marven

Quote from: gingermolloy on January 10, 2009, 02:52:28 PM
Once you reset the progression you must wait for another 10 consecutive non repeaters to bet on!!!!!!!

Well, I have missed that part in my test. Whenever the progression was reset, I would for example take the last 6 spins with unique numbers and add 4 more unique numbers from the next 4 spins to form a new set of 10 unique numbers and start the progression.

I didn't know I should wait for ANOTHER set of 10 unique numbers (even if there are already 5 or 6 unique numbers from the last game).

I will redo my test, although I don't think this will make a difference anyway in the long run.

The following are the results of my last test's progressions. I have outlayed them in Lw format so that you can see which step of each progression won:

LLLLLLLw  <-- Won at the 8th step of the progression.
Lw          <-- Won at the second step of the progression. (and so on)
Lw
w
w
Lw
LLw
LLLLLw
LLw
w
LLLw
LLLw
LLLw
Lw
Lw
w
w
LLLLLLLLLL  <-- Progression failed!
Lw
w
w
LLw
w
w
LLLw
LLLw
LLLLLLw
Lw
Lw
LLLLLLw
LLLLLLLLLL  <-- Progression failed!
LLLw
LLLLLw


I also want to bring your attention to something.

You said that there is a mechanical aspect in this system which is the progression, and a human-based aspect which is the selection of 10 unique numbers.

The fact is that this is a totally mechanical system. Selecting 10 unique numbers IS a mechanical bet selection that can be easily coded into a program.

As far as I know, mechanical systems don't work in the long run due to their imposing of fixity on the stream of random outcomes, which ends up with the results averaging out to the mathematical expectancy that we all know. But it definitely doesn't mean we shouldn't try or let others try if not give them a hand.

There is always something to learn. :)

Regards,
Marven

Proofreaders2000

Hey Ginger, looking good.  I took you suggestion, plus a few tweaks: Same dealer, if there's a dealer change, restart tracking.  It took about 40 minutes, but I played the 10 unique numbers and it won four times (in a row) on the first attempt. $72(winnings)-$18.00(numbers that didn't hit)=$54 profit, real money.  Nice!


lucky_strike

Hi i have a question.
What is the odds for picking 10 numbers and win 4 times in a row flat betting?
I just did that with an crazy idea.

Cheers Lucky Strike

Worm

hmm 10/37= 0.27   0.27^4=0.0053 so 0.53% ? I havent been in school for a while so might be wrong here

lucky_strike

Quotehmm 10/37= 0.27   0.27^4=0.0053 so 0.53% ? I havent been in school for a while so might be wrong here

Okay thanks. If you want to see it drop by gambling framework section.

Cheers

LS

Worm om du will ha två bra böcker, tips om roulette så finns det två svenka som är intressanta.

Worm

hehe ok, finns det svenska böcker om roulette? Helt upslukad av pai gow och kina poker nu fattar inte varför så jävla kul bara  :D
Sry about Swedish :)

take care
/Worm

Kon-Fu-Sed

Lucky and worm,

Maybe we should move this to a thread of its own...?

The probability to hit 4 times betting 10 numbers of 37 is (10/37) x (10/37) x (10/37) x (10/37) = 0,533572089057451% so worm's figure is OK.
(Most humbly I suggest that you read my "Roulette Probability Made Easier" in the reference area:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/roulette-probability-made-easier-t2193/)

And one book that I would NOT recommend for buying is R Bergwall's "Roulette For Alla"...
But that's just me... (I've got it...)

But as I said: If this is to be discussed, I think it should be done in a separate thread.

;)
KFS

lucky_strike

Quote(Most humbly I suggest that you read my "Roulette Probability Made Easier" in the reference area:

Okay thanks and you could read my post at gambling framework and see that there is no wrong with my math...
I get SD +3 or +4 then it gets weaker no matter what any one says...

QuoteAnd one book that I would NOT recommend for buying is R Bergwall's "Roulette For Alla"...
But that's just me... (I've got it...)

lol hahaha :) Har oxå läst den... I also read it... and that was not the book i was refering to :) lol Bergwall the Marty Guru Hahahaha

That was fun now we have 3 from SWE

LS

lucky_strike

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