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System based purely in Maths

Started by gingermolloy, January 02, 2009, 01:14:30 PM

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Arteinvivo

ginger,

You should pay attention to the words you use as when you wrote "This is in our favor but not enough" it is in your favor or it is not. This is a binary game which is not fair, ie 50/50, and trying to find a mathematical advantage is a pure lost of time, you can't. You can only try to influence the distribution of L/W but again can we really make such a difference ? to a certain point but it has some limits.

kompressor

Quote from: Arteinvivo on January 02, 2009, 06:24:22 PM
ginger,

You should pay attention to the words you use as when you wrote "This is in our favor but not enough" it is in your favor or it is not. This is a binary game which is not fair, ie 50/50, and trying to find a mathematical advantage is a pure lost of time, you can't. You can only try to influence the distribution of L/W but again can we really make such a difference ? to a certain point but it has some limits.


please somebody lock this thread before he go away....I feel like there's finaly a good movie on tv but everybody start talking

redhot

Interesting Gingermolloy, please continue your explanation

pins

the trouble with this is the lenght of time it would take to win anything worth while. and the longer you played the more chance of getting wiped out. if you lost two in a row what would your stakes be. good luck

VLSroulette

Hey mates, let's give the man the opportunity to elaborate ;) Remember as much as it is accepted by math you can't win more than expected, it is also accepted you can't lose more than expected either.

I see sharing a gain from this point of view! If the system works, then aleluyah! If it does not (As no system can increase the house edge) at most, it the is same as random-play :)

Kind regards & please Ginger by all means do continue with your explanation!
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Proofreaders2000

Here's a premise.  Yes you have the 2.7% house edge on an European Wheel and 5.4% on an American wheel.
Lets say the average comes to 2.7 and 5.4, respectively, but fluctuates up and down, perhaps with a sharp formula like LW you can benefit when it fluctuates into positive territory for the bettor.

btw, Welcome to the forum Gingermolloy. 

gingermolloy


gingermolloy

Quote from: kompressor on January 02, 2009, 06:50:46 PM

please somebody lock this thread before he go away....I feel like there's finaly a good movie on tv but everybody start talking

Thanks mate! Ill elaborate tomorrow now, no time now i'm afraid.

By the Way! can I post excel spreadsheets on here?????

gingermolloy

Quote from: Arteinvivo on January 02, 2009, 06:24:22 PM
ginger,

You should pay attention to the words you use as when you wrote "This is in our favor but not enough" it is in your favor or it is not. This is a binary game which is not fair, ie 50/50, and trying to find a mathematical advantage is a pure lost of time, you can't. You can only try to influence the distribution of L/W but again can we really make such a difference ? to a certain point but it has some limits.

As I said, the final system has a 40% advantage in our favour. Watch on for this!

Sorry again but I dont get this L/W. Explain Please, or give us a link to read that explains it.

kawa4711

Hi, gingermolloy ,

thank you for your interesting idea.
I am very curious to read more about it.

You can find all about LW`s here:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/situational-strategy-play/

Best regards

kawa4711

Lanky

Hi gingermolloy .

I am looking Forward to reading Your explanations.

This will be good to learn how the past spins have no bearing at all and You can still have a 40% Advantage with it.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

gingermolloy

Quote from: lucky strike on January 02, 2009, 09:10:55 PM
Hi gingermolloy and welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing.

I have two question for you:

Do you know what an advantage is?
If you do can you define it?

And gingermolly I just want to mention this is a section for complete systems only.

Cheers Lucky Strike

This is a complete system, it is just taking a lot of time and multiple posts to explain. Patience!

An advantage has already been explained. It is having the odds bent in our favor i.e The ratio must be below 1.00

For example if you are given odds of 8.00 (7/1) on getting a 6 when rolling a dice. If you did it long enough, probability will give you an advantage. Ratio would be 7/8 = 0.875. A 12.5% advantage in our favor.

Tucktuckster

an advantage comes when an event has a probability of happening - of say 47% but the payout for it happening is say 2.15.

2.15 being the 1 stake and 1.15 return for the succesful bet.

in theory out of 100 times, there will be 53 losers so -53 and 47 winners returning 2.15 so 47 where you get stake back and 1.15 profit. The 47*1.15 outweighs the 53 loss giving the advantage.

Like the rest - i know wait to see the explanation of the system.

Lanky

Hi Gingermolloy.

Mate seeing that this is Your Thread.

And if You think it would be better for it not to be interrupted by people asking and posting their comments. (Like Me as Well)

Then down the bottom past the end of the page You will see this.

  Move Topic  |  Remove Topic  |  Lock topic  |  Set topic sticky  |  Merge Topics   

You can click on  Lock topic and then only You & The Mods are the only ones that can unlock it.

This would certainly stop this from blowing out into a much bigger thread then You might wish it to be.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

trylobit

Hi gingermolly and welcome to the forum ;)

Please, just post the system and then we can talk about all the stuff is already in this topic (maths and odds and so on).
Because as far it's just teoreticall and I can't see it's going anywhere.

Br.
tryl.

trylobit

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