System based purely in Maths

[Charlie201]

Ginger I too hope that you reconsider , You have me thinking out of the box , please forge ahead and continue , ideas  that people believe are crazy are that ones that usually create the new  paradigms . I now the world is not flat.... Thanks  ....Charlie 

[Proofreaders2000]

@ Ginger.  I know my sense of humor may be caustic and offensive at times.  If I said anything that may have done so, I'm sorry. 

The only way I believe we'll beat the wheel is as a community.  Please reconsider staying.

[TwoCatSam]

If some one considering to play this way, then plz, use a line like 111, before you increase you bets.
Its just an illusion to think you have to win and gain a profit for every step using a progression.
You will find it more easy and lose less if you delay your bets.

I can show you that you can pass 500 000 trails and end with a profit if you delay.
If you use any thing like the post above mention with a Marty you will not last for 300 trails.

L 1
W 1
W 1 +1
L 1
L 1
W 1 +0
W 1
W 1
W 1
W 1 +4
L 1
L 1
L 1
W 2 +3
W 1 +4
L 1
L 1
W 1 +3
L 1
W 1
L 1
L 1
L 1
W 2 +2
W 1 +3
L 1
L 1
W 1 +2
L 1
W 1
W 1 +3
L 1
L 1
W 1 +2
W 1
W 1 +4
L 1
W 1
W 1 +5
L 1
L 1
W 1 +4
W 1
W 1
W 1 +7
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
W 1 +8
L 1
L 1
L 1
L 2
W 3 +6
W 1
W 1 +8
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
W 1
W 1 +10
L 1
W 1
W 1 +11
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
W 1 +12
L 1
L 1
W 1 +11
W 1
W 1 +13
L 1
L 1
W 1 +12
W 1
W 1
W 1 +15
L 1
L 1
L 1
W 2 +14
W 1 +15
L 1
L 1
L 1
L 2
W 3 +13
W 1
W 1 +15


Cheers LS

LS

I am very interested in your approach.  What is a line 1 1 1?  Do you increase your bet after three loses?  Would it go 1 1 1 2 3 4 and then cross off the outside numbers when you win?  I have worked on this for a couple of years.  I'd love to hear your take on it.

Sam

[lucky_strike]

Do you increase your bet after three loses?

Hi TCS.

Mate i am just saying as the PMs you got from me, that you can win for years and 1 1 1 is not 3 loses.
I have made tweaks and improvments to them, i send them to you if you want.

Important "The first bet you win +1, the secound bet you break even, the third bet you get -1".

That will happen TCS is this:
W and strikes of WW and above and LW will hit above LLW with a higher hit ratio.
There for they will generate a profit over time and over distribution of trails.
Then there is no reason to win at every step using a progression.

There for you can delay your bets to 1 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89.

TCS that is how i done things but know i do some thing else and i can also send that to you if you want.
Its a hybrid of Attila and some thing else for even money bets, but for now i am testing and experementing just to hit +2 like WW or WLWW or LWWW.
I am using a new approch to develop to hit wave or "trends" that produce a positive expectaion of +2.

Cheers LS

[TwoCatSam]

LS

Yes, please send me the information.  TwoCatSam@cox.net

Thanks

Sam

[xavier102772]

I think gingermolly's system has some merit.  He's using his progression to work on the most probable outcome.  Under the Standard distribution curve this is the most prevalent area.  It looks to me like his calculations are mostly correct.  In probability and especially statistics, much can easily be miscalculated and misinterpreted.  Something everyone here knows and is painfully aware of is that over the long run, the house edge will beat you.  That is why, whenever you play roulette or any game of chance, your best bet is to enter when probability is on your side and only play a short period of time.  In the short term, you can win.  Play 50 spins, then stop and have a good chance of being ahead.  Play 500 spins and you have a good chance of losing.  It's the law of large numbers working against you when you leave yourself open to the Standard Deviation of this game.  If you limit your exposure to it, that is when you take back control.  Unfortunately for human nature, most of us lack the control and greed takes over thus not allowing us to walk away after a few wins.  No, we have to keep playing until we win BIG or we lose all our bankroll.   That is human nature.  Systems based of standard deviation, probability and limited progressions are winning systems, it's us that makes them losing systems.

[VLSroulette]

Xavier,

Excellent post With quoting material.

I took the liberty to do a separate thread for it:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/quotes-and-phrases/human-nature/

Thanks for your contribution and may there be more to be read from you in the future, and I mean from now to the long run. 

Your friend,
Victor

[hermes]

Ginger, gambling is a tough jungle. Casinos don't use a soft gloves to take our bankrolls away. First thing you have to learn to accept constructive criticism.  I self don't believe that math can beat the casinos but was patiently waiting for explanation of your strategy. I personally think that if you can "think out of the box" you can come with ideas what nobody else can see and beat the system. Jordano Bruno and Galileo knew that the globe is not flat and the poor Bruno gave even his life for it.
If you are sure you can beat the system explain it to us and you will beat the system and the ignorant one too. With one shoot.
The problem arises from your slow explanation and the impatient one cannot wait to go and spend their money, with your idea.
Don't let yourself to entourage if you are right. Be brave as Jordano Bruno was. Who knows, you could be Edison in gambling?
Don't let to lose your enthusiasm on trivial things.
Thanks Hermes

[Proofreaders2000]

Something everyone here knows and is painfully aware of is that over the long run, the house edge will beat you.

Stastically that is true, yet hoardes of gamblers take to the internet and B&M casinos.  It it "the game won't beat me, again" stubborness? The sport of it, (competition between the bettor and the game, or among other bettors? 


Every so often someone comes along that confounds the experts and the wise.  Ginger may have had the key, and now we may never know.

[gingermolloy]

Hi everyone,

I would like to apologies for leaving the forum in a hough.

I would like to continue my explanations in a less technical manner.

Hope you are all still interested.

[pighead]

Welcome back gingermolloy,

guys, Please zip your mouths and let gingermolloy finish presenting his idea..

[Bruce]

Yes, please do gingermolly

Btw, are you the liverpool fan gingermolly over at RAWK? There was a guy over there once with the same name and similar roulette ideas..

[TwoCatSam]

Ginger

So we can be clear--are you male or female?

Welcome back to the forum.  We are eager to hear further explanation.  

If you become annoyed at someone, please pm me and give me a chance to talk to them privately.  

Sam

[lucky_strike]

Hi everyone,

I would like to apologies for leaving the forum in a hough.

I would like to continue my explanations in a less technical manner.

Hope you are all still interested.

Hi and welcome back, it makes me happy to see you here again.
I will not makes any replys to you post here, if you absolute don't want me to do so.

PLZ continue and post your idea and let us all know when you are ready for us to ask questions about your method.

Cheers Lucky Strike

[gingermolloy]

here is the final bet!

wait for 10 numbers to come up with no repeaters.

1.e.

1, 23, 32, 3, 7, 33, 8, 0, 2, 31.

we then bet on these 10 numbers using the following progression.

Amount wagered on each of the 10 numbers|:

20p,
80p,
£1.20,
£2,
£3,
£4.40,
£6.40,
£9.20,
£13,
£18.20.

If we lose after this we go back to the start

If we win at at any point we go back to the start.

Only start the progression again when you have had 10 straight numbers that are all unique, i.e. no repeaters.

Example needed!!!!!

here we go!

3, wait
34, wait
6, wait
3, repeater
32, wait
9, wait
21, wait
20, wait
0, wait
5, wait
36,we have now had 10 numbers that are all different.
so we bet 20p on them all.
19, lose, bet 80p on them all,
17, lose, bet £1.20 on them all
20, win

keep on going, but only bet when the last 10 numbers were unique

Thoughts? comments?

Can someone test this for me?

[gingermolloy]

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