THE GRANDPAAA WAY

[nottophammer]

Right chrisbis
400 is in my pocket. £100.00 is loaded into machine plus a further £180.00 during play. At end of play the meter reads £419.00, take away the £280.00 makes a profit of £139. So sitting in pocket is £519, Nice granps

[ausguy]

Have another look in your pocket as you should have 539 quid ?  Start with 400 - 280 outlay = 120 still in pocket. Win 139 + 280 = $419 on meter + 120 still in pocket = 539.             OR !

To have ONLY 519 sitting in your pocket your total game outlay would need to have been 300 ? Not 280 ?
Then with 419 on the meter at finish of play your profit is 119.   

In pocket to pocket terms start @ 400 & finish @ 519 then GAIN = 119 not 139 ?  20 error in your profit/loss Mr. Hammer ?   

[nottophammer]

negative reply from aus as usual, simple mistake,  you can see the 280 back rounds the 400 so  539 sits in pocket.
heres some more you can poo poo mr aus turners again sarftanoon, yes the 100 in  and 40 more, but collect 231, perhaps you could work the profit incase i drop a number.
suppose the old comment wheres the paper work or the payout slip.

[nottophammer]

chrisbis did the e-mail open okay. if so would you like more spins recorded for smart live, as seems, unlike some, your prepared to do the research,and not like those who just want to take the system and win in the southern hemisphere

[chrisbis]

I would love some more spins please.
Always great for testing and research.

I have not been to that email login just yet, tho will go now and have a look....should be fine.
Will let you know.
Cheers
C

[ausguy]

Hammer - We have a saying here in Australia "GOTTA KEEP THE BASTARDS HONEST." & also "IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT IN THE KITCHEN, THEN STAY OUT."

Turn the violin music off & put away the tissues (sniffy sniffy) a mistake is what it is, simple or other.

Even simple mistakes can cost you in play, such as betting "left" when you should have bet "right". Ever done any of those Hammer ?

I have many times & I've paid the price.

As to replies don't misconstrue CONSTRUCTIVE & label it as NEGATIVE just because it doesn't fit your mindset.

As you didn't reply to my question on your 139 win, that may benefit other players (but not me as a non RNG player), I'll ask again HOW MUCH WERE YOU LOSING & AT WHAT STAGE OF YOUR 70min. SESSION DID YOU MOVE INTO POSITIVE BALANCE ?

Also what is your MM (money mgnt.) & Bank Roll MO (method of op.) ? It seems a bit ad hoc with your variable amounts you put into your play account = some in play & some in the pocket which you add to your play balance as needed ?

As you say you bail out after losing the 14th spin (is that L14 ?) but if the play below that ebbs & flows & the game has you in negative balance how much are you prepared to outlay should for example your 400 is lost ?

Again I'll repeat myself as per a previous post "THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAIL."

Apart from yourself Hammer, based on the posts on here, it doesn't seem like anyone else is playing this game. Perhaps too complex/risky for most ?

[chrisbis]

Email received.....
Thank Hammer.

[nottophammer]

Aus
As seems your the brains, the table layout and the wheel layout. Was the table layout on european, when they had double 0,
the same order, ie, 1,2,3,4,5,6 and so on.

[ausguy]

OK don't reply to valid questions but instead revert to some unintelligible dribble ?   It's only your credibility that suffers here.

[nottophammer]

Aus
wouldn't have a clue when went from neg to pos, i just wait for the bet to come and when time is right, i hope, i play. Yes if went 14 losses its lost and wait for next bet. Dont like it complicated, so MM BR doesn't enter play, its obviously ther but till come on here never ever thought about it. There.

to answer the last ? the layouts are the same, by this i ment the colours of the numbers. So the person/s creating the euro wheel still left the table layout the same. So the outside bets on the dozens could be changed?

[gavind]

Hi nottophammer, were you able to sort this out by any chance?

[waaahome]

I'm still goinnnnnn with this. I could post new ideas that I've been adding but my original idea works. Sometime the extras help, sometimes they don't. I will post some ideas for you to try. Later.

[nottophammer]

works fine. any tweaks to this can only make it better

[nottophammer]

fellow granps players, do you find the block of nine that triggers,some times misses to the next street,well,why not increase the bet to include those two extra streets,making it a 15 chip bet in stead of a nine chip. Only an idea 

[nottophammer]

Hi nottophammer, were you able to sort this out by any chance?

Well  Gavin i thought if you lay the mat in a straight line, then break it at 18/19, like this
1     2    3    4    5    6   7    8    9  10  11  12   13   14  15  16  17  18
36  35  34  33  32  31 30  29  28 27  26  25   24   23  22  21  20  19 
you could then have a different first doz 1 2 3 4 5 6  31  32  33 34 35 36.
The second doz would remain the same.

the third would be  7 8 9 10 11 12  25  26  27  28  29  30.

would this make  any difference  to outcomes for dozen bets.

Another idea is
1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19  20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29  30
31 32 33 34 35 36

now you could have a 1st doz of 1 2 3, 11  12 13,  21 22 23,  31 32 33,  obviously you have to place a chip  on each number this way, but it is a different doz. 2nd doz would be  4 5 6, 14 15 16, 24 25 26, 34 35 36,  3rd would be
7 8 9 10, 17 18 19 20, 27 28 29 30. If say you was to back the first doz here or either these doz  flat betting you could pick up finaal bets as well.
Just wondered why the Blanc brothers changed the layout, would this make a difference to their wheel, the now European wheel. The old euro wheel with the 0/00 now the American wheel looks more workable as numbers lay opposite to each other, just one observation. There are more regarding the outside bets.

[nottophammer]

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