The "Holiest Grail" of them all - For Touchbet Roulette only

[The Rouletologist]

Hi to all, i'm so exited, i don't no where to start....but 1st. things 1st.Thanx to all for a wonderfull Roulette Forum and all the work that is going in to keep this site up and running 

I Created a System about 6 years ago and still goes very very strong with it when playing Live.  There's just a small "kink"(or can i just call it a cheat from my side  ) in the system.

This system i use only with Touchbet Roulette and me and my wife plays it together(1 system, 2 players...the "kink" ive talk about). The maximum units you can put on a # per machine is 20 units/#. This system required 2 people to play together cause sometimes you need to bet more than 20 units on a #, then the other person bet when time comes.

Some Stats about this system:The system average around 400 - 550 units profit per day (average 360 spins per day). A unit is R2 (about 0.20$). Its a system that is not 100% fullproof as there is sometimes a lost session, BUT you always win more than you will lost.

My personal record in Live play stands at + 435564 units in 981 playing days (play every 2.nd day).....5297 sessions (only 32 lost sessions) 

2 reasons i want to post it here, 1st. for all readers on here to make alottof money and 2ndly to ask your guys here to code it for me in an Exel file just for personal use when running it against Spielbank permaninses for personal testings.

Is there anyone that will be able to help me code it ??

Thanx in advance

TR

[MXkid77]

Hi Rouletologist, welcome.

Post the system and i will see if i can code an excel tracker for you, no problems mate.

MX

[The Rouletologist]

Thanx MXkid77,
Its a bit treaky, but i think you will sort it. I forgot to say its for single 0 (European wheels)....and this system doesn't work with computer generated spins, it takes advantage of the "inbulding errer" (if i can call it that ) of every Croupier....if this statement doesn't make sense, don't warry about it.

You will understand why i said that this system works only with "Touchscreen Roulette"....you need to make the right disesions quickly and bet acordingly. Theres no time to waste and to stand and put your chips on a table with alotof people around will only make you go crazy.

With Touchbet its verymuch easier....a bit practice and in no time you (and your partner offcorse ) will be away

Ok, here it goes....

With this System you divided the wheel into 3 sectors

* Same side sector (Sss) ( always 13#s )
* Left side sector (Lss) ( always 12#s )
* Right side sector (Rss) ( always 12 #s )

The Same-, Left- & Rightside sectors of each # is different from each other

Example for #1.
* The 13 "Sss #s" for #1 is: 1, 20, 14, 31, 9, 22, 18, 33, 16, 24, 5, 10 & 23 ( #1 & the 6#s Left and 6#s Right of it ).

* The 12 "Lss #s" for #1 is: 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26, 0, 32, 15, 19, 4 ( The 12#s Left of #1's Sss )

* The 12 "Rss #s for #1 is: 8, 30, 11, 36, 13, 27, 6, 34, 17, 25, 2 & 21 ( The 12#s Right of #1's Sss )

WAY OF PLAY.
* Always play the "side sector" ( Same, Left or Rightside ) of the 2ND LAST # that was thrown, using the LAST # thrown.

Example.
14: -
32: Lss( of # 14 )
16: Rss ( of # 32 )
19: Play Lss of # 16 ( 22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26, 0, 32 & 15 )---( 19 = Rss of # 16 )
34: Play Rss of # 19 ( 12, 28, 7, 29, 18, 22, 9, 31, 14, 20, 1 & 33 )--- ( 34 = Sss of # 19 ).....etc.

USE THE FOLLOWING PROGRESSION.
* Start betting 2 units on each # ( 12#s or in the case of a "Sss", 13#'s ).

* After every lost ,ADD 1 unit on each #, and after every win, DEDUCT 1 unit on each # untill you show a profit and end tat session

* After 6 sessions, stop for that day.

* If it happends that you are still busy with a session at the end of a day, just CONTINUE the next day betting the same way all over untill in possitive then stop ( Even if the Total sessions for the previous day and the continious sessions is only 1-5 ).

* If it happens that you bet 40 Units on each #, DON'T BUST IT and kept on betting 40 units on each # untill in positive

* If bankroll of 10000 units is lost, start over with a new bankroll, etc ( For the purpose of the testing )

Remember, once established the side sector it's very easy.
Always play the 'side sector' of the 2nd. last#, using the last # thrown.

If there is any "dealer signature" around, this method will show it clearly.If there is no "dealer signature", at least you still have a 33% chance to hit in every play.

Thanx again

TR

[MXkid77]

Hi RT,

Check if this is what you are looking for, it is preloaded with 10000 spins, so to delete the spins, hilight the spin column and delete. The Sss,Lss & Rss columns have not been locked yet, so if you delete in one of those columns, just press Ctrl + Z to undo.

If you need changes made, just let me know. Attached below

[Jakkalsdraai]

  Hey Rouletologist,

Very interesting system. Thank you for sharing it is appreciated. And yes the touch screen spins I have tested with it, clear dealer signatures have surfaced, so thanks again.

Cheers
jakk

[Boo_Ray]

hey nice way to play.. Is touchbet airball? because on our airball tables we have limits from 1 - 100 units per number

[Jakkalsdraai]

Hey Boo,

they are both the same thing except that we are referring here to actual live dealers but with touchbet facilities.

I cannot see why it should not work on airball as well.

Cheers
jakk

[insidebet]

Hello again,

I always felt that if there was a way to beat the beast it had to be with the wheel layout and it would have nothing to do with dozens or color etc.  So this seems to be interesting.  I do not naturally believe in  progressions but it might be worth the try for this one.
Rouletologist, how often do you hit the wall (i.e. 10000 units loss) with this?
Did you ever try just flat-betting?

Now, everybody else.  RX coding seems to be a forgotten art isn't it?
I sure as hell am not capable of coding this.  But for some of you, surely this would not be too hard, right?

If someone is kind enough to code this it would be nice to give it a few options in the betting.  For example the option of flatbetting or to use a very mild progression.

It seems to me that this could easily run into table limits problems.  I, for one, like to play in a casino where limits is 1-10.  Collusion is obviously prohibited.

Anyway,  nice to be back...

The Insider

[TwoCatSam]

When time permits, I will again seek to prove the G.U.T. is a long-term winning methodology.  Don't really care if it's the "Holiest of Grails", but if I can make a few hundred per month, I'm happy and satisfied.

I have not played in close to a month!! 

Sam

[Jakkalsdraai]

  The Rouletologist,

Do you actually change selection with every bet mate?

Or do you stick to a selection then progress until profit and only then re-select?

Cheers
Jakk

[insidebet]

Oh!

One very important question I forgot:  Do you stop playing when there is a change of croupier?
This system seems to rely on dealer's signature a lot.
Where I play dealers change all the time...

Insidebet

[alarian]

This system is strong... 

I'm going to create a betting-assistant to keep track of everything for you with history and everything related.

Would auto-betting according to the system be of interest?
If so then you could just start up the program and let the system play itself with no manual requirement.

Switch on when you go to bed and produce a huge smile when you wake up

To clarify... This assistant will do the calculations for you so that you need absolutely no brainwork... just follow the instructions from the bet assistant which calculates the bets according to your system...

[alarian]

Rouletologist, how often do you hit the wall (i.e. 10000 units loss) with this?

From what I understand of Rouletologist's post, this hasn't happened to him...
He just wanted to point out that in the purpose of testing, he wants the excel programmed that way...

I checked the .xls file and I'm positivt, this is not what Rouletologist was looking for since the Sss, Rss and Lss are dynamic as opposed to static in the .xls...

Look at the wheel...
Same sector = 6 numbers left of current number + current number + 6 right of current number
Left sector = 12 numbers left of "Same sector"
Right sector = 12 numbers right of "Same sector"

Same side sector for the number 1 are the 13 numbers: 18, 22, 9, 31, 14, 20, 1,  33, 16, 24, 5, 10, 23

While the Same side sector for the number 5 is: 14, 20, 1, 33, 16, 24, 5, 10, 23, 8, 30, 11, 36

[The Rouletologist]

Hey all, thanx for all replies..

@MXKid77,thanx, but i can't open it after download, did you write it in Exel ?? I forgot to send you the Lss,Sss & Rss #'s of each # (as each #'s Lss, Sss & Rss is diferent from each other), ive got it in Exel format. How can i make to send it to you, can i do attatsments when mailing you private ??

@Jakkalsdraai, thanx for the private mail, will get back to you, i did write one but before reading that i musn't press the reply button. but in meen time, tell me is your 1st. language Afrikaans also ? ....... Yes, with every bet it changes, #1's Lss, Sss and Lss is diferent from #2's, ect.

@Boo_Ray..if you got limits from 1-100 then you can make alotof money with this system, don't no if touchbet airball is the same as the touchbet roulette, how does it work ?? With touchbet roulette you've got 8-10 touch-screens thats coupeld with 1 wheel and a live croupier, whats nice is that the croupier can't pic you up what you bet as in the case when betting on a table where they can cleen you up very quiqly.

Don't no if the airball TB will work if there's no croupier, my betting lay-out(system,don't realy like this word) track down any "dealer signature" if there's any at any given time.

@insidebet..progression will always be dangerous, but this system always wins more than lose. It will not work with flatbetting. Just an example: if you got a 2-1 bet played for 12 spins, on average you will lose 8 times = -8 and win 4 times = +8 (4x2) and break even. With a progression you are always infront of the odds....2-1 bet with 12 spins will look something like this (for this example 1st.8 lose and next 4 win): --- (up 1 after a loss, down 1 after a win)

1. L: -1
2. L: -2 (-3)
3. L: -3 (-6)
4. L: -4 (-10)
5. L: -5 (-15)
6. L: -6 (-21)
7. L: -7 (-28)
8. L: -8 (-36)
9. W: +18 (-18)
10. W: +16 (-2)
11. W: +14 (+12)
12. W: +12 (+24)

So after 11 spins (8L & 3W) you already in + and "infront the Odds". I don't know how to explain it in a better way but flatbetting (or mild progression) for this one WILL NOT WORK.

I dont know what the Odds is for win /loss with this bet-layout ( is there anyone here that can work it out for us ? ), but with my personal rekords it looks like about 1 loss every 165 sessions ( 32 Loss session, 5297 Win sessions, 6 sessions per day average 70+ units per session (0.20$ units).

......NO, don't stop after new croupier.... carry on, a croupier's "signature" start showing after about the 5th or six'th spin (well, sometimes )

@TwoCatSam....Winkel's G.U.T. System (betting lay-out) looks real good.Like all good systems, it must show a profit (win more then lost), but thats only half of it, the other half is in the"bullring" itself.....THE RIGHT DICISSION QUICKLY EVERY TIME.

@alarian...outo betting, that wil be great explain more please....that"assistant" will be great.

@all.......To all 'coders'. After coding my system, you can test it with HAMBURG SPIELBANK SPINS....AUGUST 2003....TABLE 1, here's the results for that month. It was a Competition on GG (username there was/is "alltime" at the time )

DAY 1: +431 units
DAY 2: +442
DAY 3: +1556
DAY 4: +678
DAY 5: +274
DAY 6: +1125
DAY 7: +1467
DAY 8: +260
DAY 9: +783
DAY 10: +1006
DAY 11: +302
DAY 12: +412
DAY 13: +335
DAY 14: +288
DAY 15: +281
DAY 16: +320
DAY 17: +626
DAY 18: +621
DAY 19: +1026
DAY 20: +405
DAY 21: +345
DAY 22: +1649
DAY 23: +444
DAY 24: +271
DAY 25: +2008
DAY 26: +544
DAY 27: +1110
DAY 28: +990
DAY 29: +383
DAY 30: +250
DAY 31: -5636

TOTAL: +14996 for month.

Till next time

TR

[alarian]

I was expecting a little more enthusiasm

Oh well... I fixed your Excel for you... I don't think I'll make a real program until I see this system in action.

You will get Bet suggestions in this aswell as log the sectors...

[alarian]

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