LO SHU Magic square

[hideseek]

Hi Forum,
             I am trying to develop a system based on Lo shu magic square. Google it you will get lot of information about this magic square.
The square is 3x3 magic square invented ~5000 yrs back by Chinese.
4   9   2
3   5   7
8   1   6

For roulette purpose, we will play the "end digits".
I am taking 6-1-8 group to explain the system.
OK here is the system:
Any end digits of 6/1/8 play all the #s ends with 6/1/8 for a max of 3 spins.

Wherever we win we will stop there and start tracking again.
I am not recommending any progression at this stage.
I have done few 100s  of real spin data, it looks  promissing.
Test with your spin data, and try to improve it if you can.
System works with other groups also viz, 3-5-7 or 2-9-4.

Here is an example from RANDOM.ORG #S
36---- signal
29---- bet here 6,16,26,36,1,11,21,31,8,18,28
22
36---- Win
1---- signal
25
11----win
23
4
8-----signal
26-----win   etc
21---- signal
2
11----win
2
13
5
4
10
28---- signal
18---- win
7
35
21----- signal
10
11---- win
16---- signal
34
0
9 loss
2
16---- signal
28--- win
24
26
22
21
15
33
23
6
25
6
12
18
1
13

Thanks
HS

[See_Jerek]

Hello HS,

Are you chinese?
I am chinese but never heard of such a thing.
I will google it and find out more

[Breeze88]

HI


Do you only use the Horizontal numbers . or also the diagonal and vertical ones ?

.. by the way all three didgits count them either  horizontal , vertical or diagonal equals 15 .. thats why its magic...

here are some other versions of the magical 3x3 square

[hideseek]

@ see_jerek,
         I am not chineese, I am from India. Ofcourse I am also your fan.
@Breeze
          There are about 80 versions of the same "Lo Shu". The one what I ve posted is "mother of all"
I am explaining the system with horizontal one. You can try other lines as well. I dont know about their consistency.

Test it & try to improve it

[J.Daniels]

Hey guys,

This is saturn square and it is in hidden in the green carpet. Observe it and you will see it

JD

[Herb]

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This square is a tough one.  Good luck cracking the code.

[J.Daniels]

hahah Herb,

I love your jokes ... but its true, it is hidden in the green carpet.

[Herb]

Don't laugh, my square's pretty powerful.
Don't underestimate the power of my square.

Best of Luck   (All in good fun.)

-Herb

[hideseek]

@Daniel,
            Yep this is saturn square.
@Herb     

See the attached image for the relationship of number groups. These groups works together at their end digits. Check with your data.

[hermes]

The nearest magic square to roulette is Sun with 36 numbers and for lottery the square of Venus with 49 numbers. All the magic squares (7) developed Cornelius Agrippa (1486-1535). The Saturn Square is the oldest one taken probably from Chinese I Ching and I Ching is the most accurate. If we could find the influence of I Ching on roulette we would probably have a holy grail. Saturn Square was used as occult protection but I don't know for whom? the casinos or the players? The grid is black and the numbers in it are red ink. Adding all numbers horizontally or vertically ad to 15. In numerology, what many beginners on this forum don't believe in it the number 15 would be 6 (1+5=6) what is devils number anyway. We are again home at the legendary 666...6
666 horizontally and 666 vertically. What a beautiful hell combination? Does it means cross from hell 666 ? The hell cross doesn't want to hold position!                                                                                                                                                   6
Have a lucky 666                                                                                                                                     
Hermes

[hideseek]

Wow, what a great insight. Thanks

[StevieG]

I like this idea hideseek. A good 11 number bet selection. If I was playing with the number square I would tweak it to play 18 or 19 instead of 11 numbers. In your previous example you picked the row '816' which gave 11 numbers to play. I was thinking of adding two numbers which would make an L shape instead of a row:

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

However this would only be used if the previous number was a 6 (or a number ending in 6). Therefore you benefit in both directions with the numbers ending in 2,7,8,1 and 6, which would give 18 or 19 numbers (depending on the trigger number). You could have a different number set if the previous number was different such as a 9 (or a number ending in 9). The following numbers would be used in the square:

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

For 5

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

and so on.


If the triggers are either 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 then it will be 18 numbers selected. If the triggers are 7,8 or 9 then it will be 19 numbers selected

With this technique you don't have to wait for a trigger as you just select the previous number spun and go from there which means more action. A good 18/19 number progression would work well with this.

If a zero comes out its treated as a loss

The following is how this would be played (Using the same random numbers as hideseek posted:

36---- signal - Number is 6
29---- bet here 2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36,1,11,21,31,8,18,28
22---- Win  signal - Number is 2
36---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 6
1---- bet here 4,14,24,34,8,18,28,3,13,23,33,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 1
25---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 5
11---- bet here 3,13,23,33,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,7,17,27,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 1
23---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
4
8---- Win  signal - Number is 8
26---- bet here 4,14,24,34,8,18,28,3,13,23,33,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 6
21---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27 Win  signal - Number is 1
2---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
11---- Win  signal - Number is 1
2---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
13
5---- Win  signal - Number is 5
4---- bet here 3,13,23,33,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,7,17,27,5,15,25,35
10
28
18
7---- Win  signal - Number is 7
35---- bet here 2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35,3,13,23,33 Win  signal - Number is 5
21---- bet here 3,13,23,33,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,7,17,27,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 1
10---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
11---- Win  signal - Number is 1
16---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 6
34---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27
0
9
2---- Win  signal - Number is 2
16---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 6
28---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27 Win  signal - Number is 8
24---- bet here 4,14,24,34,8,18,28,3,13,23,33,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 4
26---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,3,13,23,33,8,18,28
22---- Win  signal - Number is 2
21---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36
15
33
23
6---- Win  signal - Number is 6
25---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27
6---- Win  signal - Number is 6
12---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27 Win  signal - Number is 2
18---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36
1
13

and so on....

I can see that Hideseek hits less than mine but his hits would pay out more as he uses less numbers. Mine is also more agressive as you're not waiting for the next trigger by choosing one row or column. I can play in a casino were I can put 10p on each number which would result in the starting bet of the progresstion being either £1.80 or £1.90. What would be the best progression on these values guys? By all means the orignal idea may prove to be more success than my tweak.


Just curious to see this run in a test enviroment. Here the most it misses is 4 spins, im sure this number would be greater if it got tested with a million spins but how greater is the question.

Could we make this happen?

[Klinker]

I like this idea hideseek. A good 11 number bet selection. If I was playing with the number square I would tweak it to play 18 or 19 instead of 11 numbers. In your previous example you picked the row '816' which gave 11 numbers to play. I was thinking of adding two numbers which would make an L shape instead of a row:

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

However this would only be used if the previous number was a 6 (or a number ending in 6). Therefore you benefit in both directions with the numbers ending in 2,7,8,1 and 6, which would give 18 or 19 numbers (depending on the trigger number). You could have a different number set if the previous number was different such as a 9 (or a number ending in 9). The following numbers would be used in the square:

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

For 5

4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

and so on.


If the triggers are either 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 then it will be 18 numbers selected. If the triggers are 7,8 or 9 then it will be 19 numbers selected

With this technique you don't have to wait for a trigger as you just select the previous number spun and go from there which means more action. A good 18/19 number progression would work well with this.

If a zero comes out its treated as a loss

The following is how this would be played (Using the same random numbers as hideseek posted:

36---- signal - Number is 6
29---- bet here 2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36,1,11,21,31,8,18,28
22---- Win  signal - Number is 2
36---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 6
1---- bet here 4,14,24,34,8,18,28,3,13,23,33,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 1
25---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 5
11---- bet here 3,13,23,33,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,7,17,27,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 1
23---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
4
8---- Win  signal - Number is 8
26---- bet here 4,14,24,34,8,18,28,3,13,23,33,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 6
21---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27 Win  signal - Number is 1
2---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
11---- Win  signal - Number is 1
2---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
13
5---- Win  signal - Number is 5
4---- bet here 3,13,23,33,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,7,17,27,5,15,25,35
10
28
18
7---- Win  signal - Number is 7
35---- bet here 2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35,3,13,23,33 Win  signal - Number is 5
21---- bet here 3,13,23,33,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,7,17,27,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 1
10---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35
11---- Win  signal - Number is 1
16---- bet here 8,18,28,9,19,29,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,5,15,25,35 Win  signal - Number is 6
34---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27
0
9
2---- Win  signal - Number is 2
16---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 6
28---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27 Win  signal - Number is 8
24---- bet here 4,14,24,34,8,18,28,3,13,23,33,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36 Win  signal - Number is 4
26---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,3,13,23,33,8,18,28
22---- Win  signal - Number is 2
21---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36
15
33
23
6---- Win  signal - Number is 6
25---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27
6---- Win  signal - Number is 6
12---- bet here 8,18,28,2,12,22,32,1,11,21,31,6,16,26,36,7,17,27 Win  signal - Number is 2
18---- bet here 4,14,24,34,9,19,29,2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36
1
13

and so on....

I can see that Hideseek hits less than mine but his hits would pay out more as he uses less numbers. Mine is also more agressive as you're not waiting for the next trigger by choosing one row or column. I can play in a casino were I can put 10p on each number which would result in the starting bet of the progresstion being either £1.80 or £1.90. What would be the best progression on these values guys? By all means the orignal idea may prove to be more success than my tweak.


Just curious to see this run in a test enviroment. Here the most it misses is 4 spins, im sure this number would be greater if it got tested with a million spins but how greater is the question.

Could we make this happen?

If you take that into w/l for every bet i believe it comes out like this..

nolinkswwlnolinkswlwlllnolinkswwllnolinkswwlllnolinks

Lanky's 6 point as your dealing with 18 numbers might be a good idea???

K1

[StevieG]

Thanks for the suport Klinker

I make the w/l the following

lWWWWWllWWWlWllWllllWWWlWWlllWWWWlWllllWlWWlll

I will look into the 6 point divsor plan!

[Klinker]

Thanks for the suport Klinker

I make the w/l the following

lWWWWWllWWWlWllWllllWWWlWWlllWWWWlWllllWlWWlll

I will look into the 6 point divsor plan!

Ahhh i got confussed..

36---- signal - Number is 6
29---- bet here 2,12,22,32,7,17,27,6,16,26,36,1,11,21,31,8,18,28 <<<i thought here you place the bet
22---- Win  signal - Number is 2 <<<and here you win spin after

If the signal is on 36 then you place the bet on 36 not on 29 am i right?

K1

[Klinker]

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