I think I have come up with a winning method by accident.

[wiggy]

This system is based on alternating our bet selection on the 3 Dozens, (1-12, 13-24, 25-36)
We are betting 2 dozens at a time... 1&3/2&3/1&2

The theory is to bet every spin playing 2 dozens at a time based on the previous spin alternating between Last 2 dozens that won and Last 2 dozens that lost...

Ex...
#14 (Dozen 2)
#34 (Dozen 3) For the next spin we play last 2 dozens won (2&3)
#3 (Dozen 1) We lose - so now we bet on the last two dozens that Lost which are (2&3) again.
#22 We win this spin - so next we'de bet on the last two dozens that won again (1&2)...

We repeat this process and without placing money on the table end up with a Lw registry - pointing out the wins/losses trend the table is throwing out...
We'de end up with something for example like nolinksLwwLLwLLww <-- this is just a spin by spin run down of Wins Vs Losses. We can then apply a strategy to this style of playing

Hope that explanation helps...

Victor - what strategies would you suggest?

[bikemotorman]

I DONT USE ANY LW CONCEPT ON PLAYING THIS METHOD.

I WAS TRYING WHEN I CAME UP THIS TO ADD A RANDOM VERSUS RANDOM EFFECT, THE RANDOM EFFECT IS NOT ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

THE GUYS WHO USE THE LWS DONT I WOULD THINK USE A RANDOM PLAYING METHOD.

THEY ARE AFTER CERTAIN STREAKS ON CERTAIN DOZENS OR COLUMNS TO LOWER THE RISK OF LOSING AND HOPEFULLY RAISE THE CHANCE WINNING. JUST READ ABOUT STEVE MORGAN.

WITH MY KRAZY METHOD I BET NON STOP, THE IDEA IS TO LOWER THE LOSING STREAKS BUT IT ALSO BY ACCIDENT MIGHT CAUSE YOU TO MISS A WINNING STREAK.

THE LWS METHOD SEEMS TO BE ABOUT TIMING, THERE MAYBE A DOZEN THAT HAS NOT WON IN 14 SPINS, TODAY I SAW A DOZEN THAT HAD NOT HIT IN NINE SPINS, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTING ON THE OTHER TWO LOL.

MY METHOD DOES WORK BUT IT NEEDS A GOOD PROGRESSION LOL.

STUART

[wiggy]

With this method eventually you'll hit a winning streak - I think Vic's left most cancellation strategy would work well, or the Midas Method similar approach. Although on a loss playing two dozens doubles the amount lost that you're trying to win...

[bikemotorman]

Hi Guys,

I need some help with my system.

I am not sure what is causing it to lose, I don't know if it is the LDozens or the Jumpdozens that is giving me a problem.

I play like I always do LAST WON DOZENS THEN NEXT SPIN LAST LOST DOZENS, BUT AT ONE POINT I WILL HAVE MAYBE SIX STRAIGHT LOSSES OR SEVEN IN A ROW.

I AM TRYING TO SEE IF IT IS THE LD, OR THE JD THAT IS GIVING ME THE LOSSES, I AM ASKING HELP FROM THE VERY SEASONED ROULETTE PLAYERS.

YES I CAN PLAY VIRTUAL BUT MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN TWEAK THIS FOR ME I MAY GO TO USE THE SYSTEM LIVE SOON.

I KNOW WE WILL HAVE LOSSES BUT I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN ALTER MY PLAY ON THE FLY TO PREVENT SUCH LOSSES, STEVE MORGAN SAYS HE PLAYS HIS METHOD TILL IT FAILS IN A VIRTUAL MODE THEN PUTS HIS CASH ON THE LINE I WANT TO LEARN HOW TO DO THE SAME.

MAYBE I CAN START BETTING AFTER MY METHOD FAILS IN VIRTUAL THEN START PLAYING FOR REAL.

THE METHOD IS THE SAME.

LAST WON DOZENS
LAST LOST DOZENS
LAST WON DOZENS
LAST LOST DOZENS

AND ON AND ON

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP GUYS


          STUART THE BIKEMOTORMAN BRANDT

[Davemd]

Hi Bikemotorman,

If he does not see this thread pm Victor,

he is damn good in this department,

                                               Regards,

                                                          Davemd.

[bikemotorman]

Hey Dave,

I am hoping he will help me on my method or system lol.

If I can figure out what is making it lose maybe I can fix it.

I know all systems lose in the end but I am only planning on playing a few hours a week lol, the casinos house edge is based on 24/7 365 days a year.


Stuart

[Lanky]

Hey Dave,

I am hoping he will help me on my method or system lol.

If I can figure out what is making it lose maybe I can fix it.

I know all systems lose in the end but I am only planning on playing a few hours a week lol, the casinos house edge is based on 24/7 365 days a year.


Stuart

Hi Stuart.
Mate put up the Numbers as they came out Going down the page and what You bet on and I will track it down for You from there and see if I can be of some help to You.

Your Mate.

Lanky.

[bikemotorman]

OK LANKY,

HERE YOU GO I JUST PLAYED ON JBET FOR 45 MINUTES.

I DID NOT HAVE TOO MANY LOSSES TODAY BUT CHECK IT OUT.


LAST WON  31L
LAST WON  4 L
LAST LOST 0 L
LAST WON  10W
LAST LOST 16W
LAST WON  15W
LAST LOST 27W
LAST WON  12L
LAST LOST 9 L
LAST WON  29W
LAST LOST 3 W
LAST WON  0 L 
LAST LOST 29W
LAST WON  35W
LAST LOST 17W
LAST WON  0 L
LAST LOST 1 L
LAST WON  32W
LAST LOST 12W
LAST WON  14W
LAST LOST 9 W
LAST WON  1 W
LAST LOST 22W
LAST WON  6 W
LAST LOST 23W
LAST WON  2 W
LAST LOST 31W
LAST WON  10W
LAST LOST 30W
LAST WON  0 L
LAST LOST 27W
LAST WON  24L
LAST LOST 12W
LAST WON  33L
LAST LOST 36L
LAST WON  32W
LAST LOST 29L

DONE


STUART

[sniper]

Hello bikemotorman,

Do you continue betting when you hit a 0(zero)? Or do you re track?

Thanks & Regards

sniper

[Phishalot]

I wish I had seen this thread last week, just getting back from AC. But luckly I have to go back to finish up my work in Philly next week.

This looks like it will work well with my favorite progession the Oscar Grind. With a 400 unit bankroll.

I will be coming up from NC and will do the live test for you or pick you up and we can share the room. I need to be there until Wendsday when I will finish work and drive back to NC that night.

Phishalot

[Lanky]

Hi Stuart.


Mate I was expecting You to put up the bad Run You had before.

But never mind this will have to do.

I won't comment on the Zeros as I nearly always have them as a Saver bet or win on them.

OK LANKY,

HERE YOU GO I JUST PLAYED ON JBET FOR 45 MINUTES.

I DID NOT HAVE TOO MANY LOSSES TODAY BUT CHECK IT OUT.


LAST WON  31L
LAST WON  4 L 
LAST LOST 0 L
LAST WON  10W << I will start from here Now
LAST LOST 16W
LAST WON  15W
LAST LOST 27W
LAST WON  12L  << that's a LD loss
LAST LOST 9 L    << that's a JD loss
LAST WON  29W
LAST LOST 3 W
LAST WON  0 L 
LAST LOST 29W
LAST WON  35W
LAST LOST 17W
LAST WON  0 L
LAST LOST 1 L  <<that's a LD loss
LAST WON  32W
LAST LOST 12W
LAST WON  14W
LAST LOST 9 W
LAST WON  1 W
LAST LOST 22W
LAST WON  6 W
LAST LOST 23W
LAST WON  2 W
LAST LOST 31W
LAST WON  10W
LAST LOST 30W
LAST WON  0 L
LAST LOST 27W
LAST WON  24L << that's an LD loss
LAST LOST 12W
LAST WON  33L << that's an LD loss
LAST LOST 36L << that's a JD loss
LAST WON  32W
LAST LOST 29L << that's a JD loss

DONE


STUART     

There You Go Mate.

Lanky.

[shoesmith81]

I have read the entire thread with interest and have been playing the system for the last couple of weeks.

Discipline is very important.

I wait for one loss and then play the 1 - 3 -9 -27 progression.

My aim each session is to win 3 units and then walk away.

I know this doesn't sound a lot but my aim is to be a winner at roulette and not a loser.

I've played roulette a lot of the years and discipline and greed is something that makes you loose!

Gambling friends of mine always say one more spin, even of they have got to the magical number they wanted to win.

They end up going under their profit aim and then get frustrated and lose!

So far so good!

Once I've got to my 3 unit win I do get tempted to play on but what I have noticed is the less time you exposure your money on the table in any given session the less chance you have of losing.

Even if you win 1 chip a day you are a winner!

Keep your discipline on this system and wait for a virtual loss or two then begin playing.

One session took me over an hour before I put my first bet on but I won the first bet!

Just imagine tracking w and l to working towards your end goal which is a profit!

[hermes]

Interesting approach! I like it. Congratulation Steward!
It could be played many ways and also on Columns. Leveller progression could hold also.
What about mix it up? Play last winning dozen/column or last lost dozen/column?
Example:
      D1 D2 D3 -C1 C2 C3
30             X               X
                                       next spin bet D3/C3  Both can win!!!
Hermes

[marvin]

how about flat's progression from the other forum ... +2 on lose -1 on win

[schoenpoetser]

I have made an excelprogram for the dozens.
Betting system 1-3-9-27-54-etc.
Sample 150 spins.

You can download theprogram for free:nolinks://nolinks.mijnbestand.nl/Bestand-CAS8KK6XMBHB.xlsx

Please give your remarks

[schoenpoetser]

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