Inside Number System - Wins within ten spins, Not betting every spin

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 06:21:01 AM

Here is a test I did simply to illustrate how the spreadsheet can help you to know whether to bet on repeaters or unhits. I let it run much longer than a normal test to see if it would hold true that as the bet count rose, it would be more likely to land on a non-repeater (unhit). Notice around spin #52 I started to bet the unhit numbers because the bet count rose up over 30. However, I don't feel it was high enough. I should still have been betting on repeaters at that point to maximize profit. The correlation between the bet count and the bet selection as it pertains to the count is the key to this puzzle.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
15 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
16 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
17 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
18 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
19 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
20 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
21 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
22 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
23 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
24 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
25 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
26 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
27 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
28 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
29 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
30 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
31 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
32 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
33 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
34 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
35 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
36 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
37 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
38 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
39 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
40 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
41 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
42 6 Bet 24 36 -24 12 412 1 : 1,2,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,18,21,22,26,27,28,29,30,32,33,34,35,36,0
43 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
44 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
45 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
46 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
47 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
48 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
49 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
50 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
51 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
52 3 Bet 11 36 -11 25 437 1 : 3,4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
53 32 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 427 1 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
54 1 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 417 1 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
55 15 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 407 1 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
56 34 Bet 20 0 -20 -20 387 2 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
57 0 Bet 20 0 -20 -20 367 2 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
58 22 Bet 40 0 -40 -40 327 4 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
59 10 Bet 50 0 -50 -50 277 5 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
60 35 Bet 50 0 -50 -50 227 5 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
61 8 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 147 8 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
62 17 Bet 100 360 -100 260 407 10 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
63 12 Bet 9 0 -9 -9 398 1 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
64 19 Bet 18 0 -18 -18 380 2 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
65 21 Bet 27 0 -27 -27 353 3 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
66 10 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 317 4 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
67 1 Bet 54 0 -54 -54 263 6 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
68 9 Bet 54 0 -54 -54 209 6 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
69 26 Bet 90 0 -90 -90 119 10 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
70 5 Bet 108 432 -108 324 443 12 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
71 12 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 435 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
72 31 Bet 24 108 -24 84 519 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
73 33 Bet 21 0 -21 -21 498 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25
74 15 Bet 21 0 -21 -21 477 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25
75 25 Bet 28 144 -28 116 593 4 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25
76 27 Bet 6 0 -6 -6 587 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
77 34 Bet 6 0 -6 -6 581 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
78 15 Bet 6 0 -6 -6 575 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
79 19 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 563 2 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
80 3 Bet 18 0 -18 -18 545 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
81 14 Bet 24 144 -24 120 665 4 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
82 21 Bet 32 36 -32 4 669 1 : 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,25,26,27,28,29
1 : 30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0
83 16 Bet 32 36 -32 4 673 1 : 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,25,26,27,28,29
1 : 30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0
84 17 Bet 32 36 -32 4 677 1 : 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,25,26,27,28,29
1 : 30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0
85 25 Bet 5 0 -5 -5 672 1 : 4,7,20,23,24
86 8 Bet 5 0 -5 -5 667 1 : 4,7,20,23,24
87 1 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 657 2 : 4,7,20,23,24
88 6 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 647 2 : 4,7,20,23,24
89 19 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 637 2 : 4,7,20,23,24
90 32 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 622 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
91 31 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 607 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
92 9 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 592 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
93 25 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 577 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
94 3 Bet 20 0 -20 -20 557 4 : 4,7,20,23,24
95 23 Bet 20 144 -20 124 681 4 : 4,7,20,23,24

MATTJONO · May 14, 2009, 06:36:21 AM

hi all I have been looking at taking advantage of these percentages of numbers hitting in 37 spins. if for example you see 13 hit numbers after 24 spins you have practicly 110% chance of hitting a unhit number in the next 12 spins.

Probability Distribution of Hit Numbers in 37 Consecutive Spins.
Based on 10 million simulations.

Hit Numbers Probability
1 0%
2 0%
3 0%
4 0%
5 0%
6 0%
7 0%
8 0%
9 0%
10 0%
11 0%
12 0%
13 0%
14 0.00003% - after tracking 24 spins. If 14 or less hit numbers we bet unhit numbers after everytime a unit number appears.STOP AT 24 HIT NUMBERS
15 0.0006%
16 0.0062%
17 0.0513%
18 0.282%
19 1.2%
20 4%
21 8% - after tracking 24 spins. If 21 or more hit numbers we bet hit numbers after everytime a hit number appears.STOP AT 24 HIT NUMBERS
22 15%
23 20%
24 20%
25 16%
26 9%
27 4%
28 1%
29 0.33%
30 0.055%
31 0.00691%
32 0.00046%
33 0.00001%
34 0%
35 0%
36 0%
37 0%

WHEN WE REACH 24 HIT NUMBERS AND STOP. WE CHECK HOW MANY SPINS IT HAS TAKEN TO REACH 24 HIT(UNIQUE) NUMBERS.
IF 24 NUMBERS HAVE HIT IN 34spins or less we bet on the hit numbers when a hit number appears the spin before.
IF 24 NUMBERS HAVE HIT IN 38spins or more we bet on the unhit numbers when a unhit number appears the spin before.

we will all end up with our own personal ways of playing this type of LAW.

(you will have to play for real money to feel the real power of this system) so I will be using my £5 as two seperate bankrolls of 250pennies

. see how I go tommorow.

cheers,
mattjono

and great work all again

cabbage · May 14, 2009, 08:05:05 AM

Hi people,

As there are arguments on this thread about numbers more likley or less likley to show I thought this info from the book: Killer roulette How To Beat The "Unbeatable" might help a little.

This is a bit from Chapter 2 (How roulette Wheels Become Biased)

"I've read confidential reports on roulette wheels that indicate
to me that for a roulette wheel to be totally random it needs to
be flawless and perfect in every single way. This is an impossability
because a roulette wheel is just too complicated for it to reach
anywhere near perfection.

There are alot more componets to a roulette wheel than meet the
eye. Nearly all of the modern roulette wheels of today are highly
tuned pieces of equipment; whether they are the latest models
by John Huxley or the Paulsen or Pual Tramble wheels, the quality
is exceptionally high in them all. But bias still appears and will continue
to appear."

-----------------------------------------------------------------

He also mentions in the book "tempory bias" and that might just explain why numbers appear more than others within 37 spins.

I think people like Herb should really take advice of trying to think outside the box because reading books such as the one above really does open your eyes to the fact that roulette is'nt as black and white as it appears

boatran8 · May 14, 2009, 08:57:30 AM

Quote from: RPro75 link=topic=8929. msg55258#msg55258 date=1242292861
Here is a test I did simply to illustrate how the spreadsheet can help you to know whether to bet on repeaters or unhits. I let it run much longer than a normal test to see if it would hold true that as the bet count rose, it would be more likely to land on a non-repeater (unhit). Notice around spin #52 I started to bet the unhit numbers because the bet count rose up over 30. However, I don't feel it was high enough. I should still have been betting on repeaters at that point to maximize profit. The correlation between the bet count and the bet selection as it pertains to the count is the key to this puzzle.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
15 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
16 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
17 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
18 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
19 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
20 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
21 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
22 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
23 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
24 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
25 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
26 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
27 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
28 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
29 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
30 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
31 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
32 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
33 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
34 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
35 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
36 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
37 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
38 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
39 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
40 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
41 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
42 6 Bet 24 36 -24 12 412 1 : 1,2,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,18,21,22,26,27,28,29,30,32,33,34,35,36,0
43 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
44 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
45 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
46 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
47 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
48 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
49 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
50 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
51 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
52 3 Bet 11 36 -11 25 437 1 : 3,4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
53 32 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 427 1 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
54 1 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 417 1 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
55 15 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 407 1 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
56 34 Bet 20 0 -20 -20 387 2 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
57 0 Bet 20 0 -20 -20 367 2 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
58 22 Bet 40 0 -40 -40 327 4 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
59 10 Bet 50 0 -50 -50 277 5 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
60 35 Bet 50 0 -50 -50 227 5 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
61 8 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 147 8 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
62 17 Bet 100 360 -100 260 407 10 : 4,5,7,14,17,20,23,24,25,31
63 12 Bet 9 0 -9 -9 398 1 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
64 19 Bet 18 0 -18 -18 380 2 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
65 21 Bet 27 0 -27 -27 353 3 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
66 10 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 317 4 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
67 1 Bet 54 0 -54 -54 263 6 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
68 9 Bet 54 0 -54 -54 209 6 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
69 26 Bet 90 0 -90 -90 119 10 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
70 5 Bet 108 432 -108 324 443 12 : 4,5,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
71 12 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 435 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
72 31 Bet 24 108 -24 84 519 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25,31
73 33 Bet 21 0 -21 -21 498 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25
74 15 Bet 21 0 -21 -21 477 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25
75 25 Bet 28 144 -28 116 593 4 : 4,7,14,20,23,24,25
76 27 Bet 6 0 -6 -6 587 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
77 34 Bet 6 0 -6 -6 581 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
78 15 Bet 6 0 -6 -6 575 1 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
79 19 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 563 2 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
80 3 Bet 18 0 -18 -18 545 3 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
81 14 Bet 24 144 -24 120 665 4 : 4,7,14,20,23,24
82 21 Bet 32 36 -32 4 669 1 : 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,25,26,27,28,29
1 : 30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0
83 16 Bet 32 36 -32 4 673 1 : 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,25,26,27,28,29
1 : 30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0
84 17 Bet 32 36 -32 4 677 1 : 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,25,26,27,28,29
1 : 30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0
85 25 Bet 5 0 -5 -5 672 1 : 4,7,20,23,24
86 8 Bet 5 0 -5 -5 667 1 : 4,7,20,23,24
87 1 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 657 2 : 4,7,20,23,24
88 6 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 647 2 : 4,7,20,23,24
89 19 Bet 10 0 -10 -10 637 2 : 4,7,20,23,24
90 32 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 622 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
91 31 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 607 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
92 9 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 592 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
93 25 Bet 15 0 -15 -15 577 3 : 4,7,20,23,24
94 3 Bet 20 0 -20 -20 557 4 : 4,7,20,23,24
95 23 Bet 20 144 -20 124 681 4 : 4,7,20,23,24

Rpro, I remark you go quite far in the progressions with your tweaking of rjeaton's system. . . step 10 or 11. . . Isn't it a little be too risky for the BR the case you go further ?

Regards

kompressor · May 14, 2009, 09:33:19 AM

what happen with the original system....maybe you should wait that it fail before going this far with tweaking

Number Six · May 14, 2009, 09:43:05 AM

Quote from: RPro75
When they see a dangerous bet like the one we have here, I also believe they will try and discredit it.

If they knew you were bringing this to a B&M they would lay out the red carpet for you and drown you in champagne. I was testing systems almost identical, and better, than this 10 years ago. I have tried every configuration and many staking plans. Suffice to say that I'm not using these systems today. Look, I'm not knocking the effort put into this but it won't work long-term. The attack is too rigid and eventually randomness will kill it. A lot of you play this game yet have taken no time to study the thing that powers it. Nor do any of you understand law of the third properly. Tweaking endlessly like you're suggesting is the end. All you're doing is introducing more rules for the random flow to bulldoze.

Oops...off to the naysayers' lounge for me

Tangram · May 14, 2009, 10:00:51 AM

I have to agree with N6

There will be times when it works, and times when it doesn't, just like any other system. By all means add it to your arsenal, but the grail it ain't (because there's no such thing).

Nherisson · May 14, 2009, 10:11:09 AM

Here it is my first test. Can you tell me if I'm right?
I used the bet calculator but at one time, I had to bet 9 units on each number to make profit.

Spin   Number   Type   Bet Unit   Win   Loss   Net   Unit Bal.    Bet Layout
0                     500
1   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
2   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
3   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
4   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
5   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
6   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
7   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
8   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
9   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
10   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
11   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
12   0   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
13   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
14   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
15   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
16   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
17   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
18   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
19   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
20   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
21   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
22   10   Bet   18   36   -18   18   518   1 : 3,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,20,21,24,26,28,29,36,0
23   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
24   25   Bet   17   0   -17   -17   501   1 : 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,20,21,24,26,28,29,36,0
25   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   501
26   16   Bet   18   0   -18   -18   483   1 : 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,20,21,24,25,26,28,29,36,0
27   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   483
28   23   Bet   57   0   -57   -57   426   3 : 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,20,21,24,25,26,28,29,36,0
29   30   No Bet   0   0   0   0   426
30   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   426
31   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   426
32   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   426
33   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   426
34   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   426
35   12   Bet   225   324   -225   99   525   9 : 1,4,5,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,20,21,23,24,25,26,28,29,30,35,36,0
36   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525
37   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525
38   35   Bet   19   36   -19   17   542   1 : 1,3,4,5,8,9,10,12,13,15,16,17,20,23,25,26,29,30,35
39   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   542
40   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   542
41   33   Bet   18   0   -18   -18   524   1 : 1,3,4,5,8,9,10,12,13,15,16,20,23,25,26,29,30,35
42   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   524
43   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   524
44   26   Bet   40   72   -40   32   556   2 : 1,2,3,4,5,8,9,10,12,13,15,16,20,23,25,26,29,30,33,35
45   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
46   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
47   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
48   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
49   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
50   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
51   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
52   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
53   18   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
54   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
55   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
56   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
57   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
58   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
59   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
60   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
61   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
62   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
63   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
64   0   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
65   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
66   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
67   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
68   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
69   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
70   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
71   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
72   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
73   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
74   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
75   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
76   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
77   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
78   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
79   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
80   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
81   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
82   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
83   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
84   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
85   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
86   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
87   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
88   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
89   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
90   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
91   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
92   33   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
93   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
94   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
95   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
96   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
97   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
98   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
99   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
100   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
101   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
102   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
103   18   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
104   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
105   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
106   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
107   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
108   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
109   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
110   18   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
111   27   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
112   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
113   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
114   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
115   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
116   30   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
117   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
118   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
119   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
120   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
121   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
122   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
123   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
124   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
125   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
126   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
127   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
128   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
129   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
130   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   556
131   7   Bet   17   0   -17   -17   539   1 : 2,4,5,9,10,11,12,14,16,18,20,26,27,28,30,31,34
132   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   539
133   19   Bet   18   0   -18   -18   521   1 : 2,4,5,7,9,10,11,12,14,16,18,20,26,27,28,30,31,34
134   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   521
135   14   Bet   57   108   -57   51   572   3 : 2,4,5,7,9,10,11,12,14,16,18,19,20,26,27,28,30,31,34

Thx RJ!

boatran8 · May 14, 2009, 10:37:09 AM

Here are the results of my last test. Didn't use the bet calculator but managed every time to get a higher BR after a lose. I stopped at spin 67 because it was the 4th time betting and losing and I was at spin 31th in the processus. Still thinking I might I've been wrong somewhere. . .

Spin   Number   Type   Bet Unit   Win   Loss   Net   Unit Bal.    Bet Layout
0                     500
1   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
2   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
3   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
4   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
5   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
6   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
7   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
8   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
9   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
10   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
11   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
12   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
13   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
14   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
15   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
16   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
17   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
18   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
19   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
20   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
21   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
22   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
23   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
24   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
25   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
26   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
27   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
28   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
29   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
30   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
31   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
32   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
33   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
34   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
35   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
36   28   Bet   18   36   -18   18   518   1 : 3,4,6,8,9,13,15,16,17,19,20,22,23,24,26,28,31,34
37   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
38   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
39   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
40   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
41   23   Bet   17   36   -17   19   537   1 : 3,6,8,9,13,14,15,16,17,22,23,24,26,28,31,32,34
42   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
43   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
44   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
45   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
46   24   Bet   18   36   -18   18   555   1 : 3,6,7,8,9,13,14,15,16,17,22,23,24,25,26,28,31,32
47   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
48   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
49   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
50   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
51   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
52   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
53   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
54   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
55   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
56   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
57   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
58   0   Bet   18   0   -18   -18   537   1 : 7,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21,23,24,25,28,31,32,34,35
59   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
60   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
61   3   Bet   40   0   -40   -40   497   2 : 7,8,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21,23,24,25,28,31,32,34,35,0
62   30   No Bet   0   0   0   0   497
63   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   497
64   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   497
65   16   Bet   110   0   -110   -110   387   5 : 3,5,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21,23,25,28,30,31,32,34,35,0
66   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   387
67   33   Bet   360   0   -360   -360   27   15 : 3,5,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,23,24,25,28,30,31,32,34,35,0

boatran8 · May 14, 2009, 10:41:12 AM

This system definitely needs RX coding. . .

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 10:53:56 AM

I think the first system that RJ created is the one we should be concentrating on now. What I have been doing is not creating a system but trying to explore the correlation between unique numbers and spin count in hopes of making his system better. I think his system is the way to go, but it can be tweaked to use the "bet count" to determine what numbers and how much to bet.

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 10:58:16 AM

Quote from: loufran on May 14, 2009, 08:57:30 AM
Rpro, I remark you go quite far in the progressions with your tweaking of rjeaton's system. . . step 10 or 11. . . Isn't it a little be too risky for the BR the case you go further ?

Regards

Yes, and as I said earlier, I'm not trying to change his system. His system is near perfect as it is. I am just studying the relationship between unique numbers and spin count as it pertains to the law of the third. The system that I made is simply base to go by and test so that I may get a feel of when to bet the repeaters and when to bet the unhits. By all means, continue studying RJ's system, it's quite good.

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 11:00:02 AM

Quote from: loufran on May 14, 2009, 10:37:09 AM
Here are the results of my last test. Didn't use the bet calculator but managed every time to get a higher BR after a lose. I stopped at spin 67 because it was the 4th time betting and losing and I was at spin 31th in the processus. Still thinking I might I've been wrong somewhere. . .

Spin   Number   Type   Bet Unit   Win   Loss   Net   Unit Bal.    Bet Layout
0                     500
1   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
2   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
3   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
4   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
5   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
6   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
7   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
8   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
9   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
10   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
11   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
12   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
13   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
14   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
15   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
16   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
17   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
18   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
19   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
20   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
21   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
22   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
23   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
24   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
25   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
26   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
27   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
28   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
29   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
30   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
31   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
32   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
33   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
34   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
35   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500
36   28   Bet   18   36   -18   18   518   1 : 3,4,6,8,9,13,15,16,17,19,20,22,23,24,26,28,31,34
37   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
38   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
39   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
40   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   518
41   23   Bet   17   36   -17   19   537   1 : 3,6,8,9,13,14,15,16,17,22,23,24,26,28,31,32,34
42   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
43   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
44   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
45   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
46   24   Bet   18   36   -18   18   555   1 : 3,6,7,8,9,13,14,15,16,17,22,23,24,25,26,28,31,32
47   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
48   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
49   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
50   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
51   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
52   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
53   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
54   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
55   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
56   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
57   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   555
58   0   Bet   18   0   -18   -18   537   1 : 7,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21,23,24,25,28,31,32,34,35
59   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
60   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   537
61   3   Bet   40   0   -40   -40   497   2 : 7,8,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21,23,24,25,28,31,32,34,35,0
62   30   No Bet   0   0   0   0   497
63   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   497
64   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   497
65   16   Bet   110   0   -110   -110   387   5 : 3,5,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,20,21,23,25,28,30,31,32,34,35,0
66   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   387
67   33   Bet   360   0   -360   -360   27   15 : 3,5,7,8,9,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,23,24,25,28,30,31,32,34,35,0

I noticed you used 1,2,5,15 as your bet progression at the end. Why so steep?

boatran8 · May 14, 2009, 11:10:52 AM

Quote from: RPro75 on May 14, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
I noticed you used 1,2,5,15 as your bet progression at the end. Why so steep?

As I said in the post I didn't use the bet calculator but tried to place the bets with RX with the nearest amount to get an upper BR... Maybe I was wrong with that. Tell me a little more about that please.

Cheers

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 11:21:17 AM

I was not able to view the videos that RJ made, so I am still a little unclear on something, even after reading the PDF. I have been taking off spin #1 when I reach spin #21, dropping spin #2 at spin #22, etc. in the tracker to always have the last 20 spins showing but it seems it takes a long time to get 17 different numbers in 20 spins that way. Sometimes, I have gotten upwards of 50 spins or more before I actually have 17 different numbers in the last 20 spins. I was wondering if I should keep spinning after 20 until I reach 17 different numbers or if I am doing this right by only having the least 20 spins in the tracker. It's quite confusing if you can't view the video.

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 11:21:17 AM

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