Inside Number System - Wins within ten spins, Not betting every spin

celiza427 · May 14, 2009, 02:28:49 PM

Quote from: loufran on May 14, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
Thanks a lot Celiza!!!! If I understand well, you always put the same number in C2 & D2 . Is that correct?

Thks

Yes, that's correct. That way column F will always be your suggested bet and let you know if more units per number are needed in order to get a profit.

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 03:55:36 PM

@RJ

Hello RJ,

I was wondering if you could take a look at this cycle I played with your system and tell me if I did it exactly as I should have. I've attached the spreadsheet as well. You will notice it took 47 spins to get 17 unique numbers within the last 20 spins. This is the part I am a little unclear about. I understand the trigger, the betting calculator, and the bet selection perfectly well though. Thanks for your help.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
15 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
16 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
17 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
18 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
19 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
20 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
21 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
22 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
23 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
24 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
25 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
26 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
27 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
28 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
29 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
30 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
31 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
32 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
33 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
34 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
35 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
36 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
37 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
38 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
39 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
40 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
41 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
42 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
43 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
44 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
45 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
46 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
47 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
48 23 Bet 21 36 -21 15 415 1 : 3,5,6,8,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
49 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 415
50 10 Bet 21 0 -21 -21 394 1 : 3,5,6,8,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
51 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 394
52 24 Bet 42 72 -42 30 424 2 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
53 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
54 30 Bet 22 36 -22 14 438 1 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
55 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 438
56 6 Bet 22 36 -22 14 452 1 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
57 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 452
58 16 Bet 22 36 -22 14 466 1 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36

+66 units in 58 spins

rjeaton1 · May 14, 2009, 07:43:32 PM

Quote from: RPro75 on May 14, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
@RJ

Hello RJ,

I was wondering if you could take a look at this cycle I played with your system and tell me if I did it exactly as I should have. I've attached the spreadsheet as well. You will notice it took 47 spins to get 17 unique numbers within the last 20 spins. This is the part I am a little unclear about. I understand the trigger, the betting calculator, and the bet selection perfectly well though. Thanks for your help.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
15 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
16 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
17 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
18 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
19 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
20 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
21 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
22 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
23 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
24 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
25 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
26 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
27 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
28 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
29 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
30 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
31 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
32 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
33 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
34 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
35 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
36 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
37 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
38 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
39 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
40 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
41 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
42 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
43 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
44 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
45 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
46 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
47 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
48 23 Bet 21 36 -21 15 415 1 : 3,5,6,8,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
49 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 415
50 10 Bet 21 0 -21 -21 394 1 : 3,5,6,8,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
51 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 394
52 24 Bet 42 72 -42 30 424 2 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
53 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
54 30 Bet 22 36 -22 14 438 1 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
55 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 438
56 6 Bet 22 36 -22 14 452 1 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36
57 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 452
58 16 Bet 22 36 -22 14 466 1 : 3,5,6,8,10,11,12,13,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,28,29,30,33,34,36

+66 units in 58 spins

Sorry I haven't been around for a little bit, had to actually do some work

but yes Rpro, I'll check this out right now and let you know. I noticed there has been a lot said about this system and there were test results posted by HomeIto in the testing section. The tests look like they actually showed very promising results, except for the couple times where there were bets places that were over $1000 etc. The stop-loss that is built into this system should have actually prevented that as I don't see how you could ever place bets that high using this system. But after looking at the results I do see that this system can get pretty hair raising when the bets do get higher (and they obviously can) based on HomeIto's testing.

I am still going to have this coded for RXtreme as I will (and encourage you guys too as well) look for a way to prevent the higher bets as well as still taking advantage of the many many wins this system obviously provides. The HG it obviously isn't, but a consistent winner without risking a lot...I'd have to say that it is.

I am already having another system coded that is based on the fundementals of the Ten Spins to Win system with some modifications based on some thoughts that I had (the thoughts were provoked primarily by the posts that Rpro made about some changes he was making and un-hit numbers to hit numbers ratio, etc. so big thanks to you Rpro for you diligent testing efforts and just offering up thoughts

). As it stands right now, it is head-and-shoulders above this Ten Spins to Win System. And I will have the RX coding for it within the next 2 to 3 days. Here are some highlights from it:

It's called Four Spins to Win (the session ends after four spins and you either lose or you win...flat out), When you, you lose just over $100 (I haven't lost at all yet...at all). There is a set progression of bets that doesn't change. It is as follows: $1, $1, $2, $4.

And lastly, after being on this forum as a guest for around 5 or 6 months now (It was as a guest almost all of it as I just registered recently) it is something none of you has seen before (it seems as though the Ten Spins to Win system was rather new to you guys is this new system is based on the fundamentals of that). After I get the RX coding back I will absolutely share it with all of you guys, and in the meantime if anybody would like to see this new system let me know (I don't want to post it on the forum yet) and I'll send it to you.

Colin · May 14, 2009, 07:55:15 PM

Rjeaton 1 yes i for 1 would love you when you find some time to send me your new roulette system .I thank you Colin yeoldcolin@aol.com

simon · May 14, 2009, 07:56:24 PM

Quotein the meantime if anybody would like to see this new system let me know (I don't want to post it on the forum yet) and I'll send it to you.

....uh, yah, can you please email it to me? thanx!!

rjeaton1 · May 14, 2009, 08:01:17 PM

Also, just to make a couple of things clear. I never said this system was the HG, nor did I ever say it didn't need improvement, nor did I ever say the "law of the third" will make me a millionaire (not directed at you Simon, you've only been a source of encouragement). I am only saying this because after looking around this forum (while nobody took direct shots at) there are some people that seem to take a lot of joy looking for ways this system fails.

I am aware that it can (and does) fail at points, but they are far far less than the wins this system provides, we just need a proper way to capitlize on the wins and buffer the losses. This was my reasoning for putting this system up on this forum. Mainly because the quality of the people here is high, and we're all (well, most of us) are trying to achieve the same goal...a consistent roulette winner. So far the thoughts provoked by this system on this thread are of great quality, and have helped me to develop a new system (as mentioned in the post above) that I hope will do just what this paragraph describes.

However, I am not going to post it here (yet). Once I get the coding back, I will post that here, and for anybody who wants to see this new one let me know. You all will see it in due time however.

This thread definitely isn't dead however, we all just need to collaborate and make the necessary improvements. I will take the time to mention that I still haven't lost using this system, but I can't argue with HomeIto's results either. Thanks yet again everybody for all your help, time and effort placed into testing this system and posting your results. I couldn't be happier!

NTM · May 14, 2009, 08:03:09 PM

Hi
can you please send me one
thank you
hello from the south of France

shaftmusic@gmail.com

BudSki · May 14, 2009, 08:24:53 PM

Hi RJ

I've been following from the beginning of this thread. I'd like to see the 4 spins to Win system too.
bc7147@aol. com
Thanks

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 09:12:02 PM

So RJ, did I do it right? You haven't answered my question yet.

rjeaton1 · May 14, 2009, 09:27:21 PM

Quote from: RPro75 on May 14, 2009, 09:12:02 PM
So RJ, did I do it right? You haven't answered my question yet.

Sorry about that Rpro, I just ran your spins through RXtreme (makes it easier for me to check) and yes, I couldn't have done it better myself. That is the system played perfect, to a T. Great stuff Rpro!

RPro75 · May 14, 2009, 09:36:15 PM

Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 14, 2009, 09:27:21 PM
Sorry about that Rpro, I just ran your spins through RXtreme (makes it easier for me to check) and yes, I couldn't have done it better myself. That is the system played perfect, to a T. Great stuff Rpro!

Great! Thanks again for sharing such a fantastic system! I think it is only going to get better as well!

Proofreaders2000 · May 14, 2009, 09:39:46 PM

Quite impressive, Rjeaton1. Thank you for sharing.

It would be nice if someone could make a software version of the system, so a bettor could concentrate more on the wheel and not so much if he/she is executing the system correctly.

rjeaton1 · May 14, 2009, 09:50:54 PM

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on May 14, 2009, 09:39:46 PM
Quite impressive, Rjeaton1. Thank you for sharing.

It would be nice if someone could make a software version of the system, so a bettor could concentrate more on the wheel and not so much if he/she is executing the system correctly.

Thanks a ton there Proof! I also couldn't agree more, which is the reason for having it coded for RXtreme. The other reason being to determine if there is a way to buffer the losses with a sort of "common drawdown" stop-loss point, or maybe a divisor formula. More to come on that though. Until then we have all the wonderful people in the forum to test and throw ideas out there (as, I must point out, you all have been doing already. Keep it up everybody!)

Also, for those of you who believe in the "Law of the Third" (like I do) then you'll be happy to hear my new system is based on that (in reverse), and a lot of other stuff. It's kind of a mix of this system, thoughts posted by others on this forum, etc. But mainly "the law of the third" in reverse.

(more on this to come soon. Just waiting till I get the RX coding back. The reason I am waiting is so I can post a 1000 spin betting history for you guys along with how the system works. I have a feeling everybody that liked this system and read about it will be overjoyed with it. I am....)

Proofreaders2000 · May 14, 2009, 10:28:59 PM

To improve the effectiveness of the system, would you suggest a time of day to play? oh--Before I forget, frequency of play? Once a day, twice a day, skip 20+ spins for the next session?

Innovcon · May 14, 2009, 10:36:00 PM

RJ,

I would love to take a look at the newest approach. When you get a chance can you please send it off to me.

Innovcon@aol. com

Thanks,
SC

Innovcon · May 14, 2009, 10:36:00 PM

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