Repeater "24" system

babs · May 16, 2009, 04:14:39 PM

QuoteRemember to report losses as well so we can get a good idea how it fares long term.

Will do

Boo_Ray · May 16, 2009, 04:23:59 PM

still, none of the questions were answered.. why?

Why dont you quote me?(answer me), and answer that instead of just quoting "I LOVE RPro"

babs · May 16, 2009, 04:32:55 PM

QuoteOMG 76 units.. Impresive!!! sure must be "holy grail"!!

Surely not. But at this moment this method is quite effective. I am not sure what you have against RPro, but since I am quite new to this forum I probably missed something. I learned a lot from him, and I am still learning from him. I have tried quite a lot of systems in my life. All crashed. So I have no illusion of finding the grail, but then again, it is not impossible to find a profitable system.

At this moment I have played RPro's system for just over 16 games. My BR went up from 228 to 407. A few of these games were played with only $0.1 instead of $1 units.

This system will probably also tank at some stage, but until then I am enjoying increasing my BR.

RPro75 · May 16, 2009, 10:53:27 PM

Here is the PDF for the new and improved system which I call the 12/4 Roulette Repeater System. Enjoy and please do test and let the forum know how you are faring.

RPro75 · May 17, 2009, 02:51:06 AM

I have to say that I think this is one fo the strongest systems I have developed. I have only experienced one small loss with the 12/4 Repeater System. The system allows for two repeats in your 12 number tracking stage, and then once you get your 12 numbers there is a 4 progression betting stage (which could easily be lengthened to 6 or 8 stages but it is not necessary). It breaks down like this: The tracking stage allows for no less than 10 unique numbers in 12 spins(remember if you have 3 repeats in this stage you must start over). You would then have to have 4 more unique numbers to lose the betting stage. That means that you would have to have 14-16 different numbers show in 16 spins to lose the cycle. You could extend the progression to 6 stages but I like to keep it at 4 so if you do blow it, you can easily recover and the odds are still really good. In terms of a 37 spin cycle, you would need 31-37 different numbers to show to lose overall. We know that on average 24-28 numbers show in 37 spins. I think that is why it is working so well. Can 16 different numbers show in 16 spins? Of course. Does it happen very often? Not from what I'm seeing.

Test with actuals from Weisbaden

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 16 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 388 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
15 22 Bet 12 36 -12 24 412 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
16 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
17 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
18 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
19 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
20 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
21 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
22 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
23 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
24 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
25 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
26 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
27 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
28 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
29 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
30 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
31 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
32 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
33 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
34 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
35 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
36 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
37 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
38 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
39 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
40 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
41 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 400 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
42 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 388 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
43 21 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 364 2 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
44 3 Bet 36 108 -36 72 436 3 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
45 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
46 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
47 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
48 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
49 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
50 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
51 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
52 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
53 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
54 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
55 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
56 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
57 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
58 31 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 424 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
59 15 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 412 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
60 33 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 388 2 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
61 24 Bet 36 108 -36 72 460 3 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
62 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
63 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
64 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
65 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
66 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
67 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
68 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
69 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
70 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
71 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
72 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
73 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
74 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
75 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
76 8 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 448 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
77 35 Bet 12 36 -12 24 472 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
78 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
79 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
80 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
81 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
82 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
83 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
84 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
85 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
86 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
87 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
88 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
89 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
90 19 Bet 12 36 -12 24 496 1 : 5,7,16,19,21,22,23,25,27,28,29,32
91 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
92 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
93 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
94 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
95 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
96 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
97 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
98 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
99 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
100 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
101 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
102 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
103 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
104 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
105 34 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 484 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
106 9 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 472 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
107 26 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 448 2 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
108 8 Bet 36 108 -36 72 520 3 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32

+120 units in 108 spins

babs · May 17, 2009, 03:05:57 AM

QuoteI have to say that I think this is one fo the strongest systems I have developed.

Played four quick games. First game was a win (but I played $2 units). Got a bit scared after that since my BR is not very high and I realized that playing $2 chips could really hurt my BR if I do hit a loss. Good thing I did as my second game busted the progression. I retracked, and my third game and fourth game also won. I stopped there for now.

With four games, 3 wins one loss, I still profited $24 in the end. BR now at $431. I probably would have a smallish loss if I did not play $2 chips with my first game.

Certainly not the holy grail, but I think this system could win more than it loses. I must say that I would probably, in future, be more cautious and only play if I have no more than 1 repeat during tracking. RPro, you suggest to stop when you hit 3 repeats, but in future I will start retracking if I hit two repeats. Probably unnecessary, but I think it is safer. I play online (I know.... but I have no choice

), but until now the system is quite stable.

babs · May 17, 2009, 03:09:08 AM

RPro, what is the chances of having this tested in RXtreme? I only played a very small number of games, but I would like to see how this holds up over say 50,000 or 100,000 spins.

RPro75 · May 17, 2009, 03:12:51 AM

Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 03:05:57 AM
Played four quick games. First game was a win (but I played $2 units). Got a bit scared after that since my BR is not very high and I realized that playing $2 chips could really hurt my BR if I do hit a loss. Good thing I did as my second game busted the progression. I retracked, and my third game and fourth game also won. I stopped there for now.

With four games, 3 wins one loss, I still profited $24 in the end. BR now at $431. I probably would have a smallish loss if I did not play $2 chips with my first game.

Certainly not the holy grail, but I think this system could win more than it loses. I must say that I would probably, in future, be more cautious and only play if I have no more than 1 repeat during tracking. RPro, you suggest to stop when you hit 3 repeats, but in future I will start retracking if I hit two repeats. Probably unnecessary, but I think it is safer. I play online (I know.... but I have no choice ), but until now the system is quite stable.

It's absolutely not the holy grail, but it is a real strong system. re-tracking after 2 losses is a good idea. The beauty of this system is that you can modify it to fit your needs. If you play with smaller units, it may be wise to extend the progression to 6 stages. I noticed that if you were to re-track after 2 repeats, you may have a lot fewer betting opportunities. As they say, "Different strokes for different folks". My aim is $50 per day and if I'm correct, you have made more than that today with it, right? Also, I want to thank you for all of your input today. I wish you continued good luck with this system.

RPro75 · May 17, 2009, 03:16:23 AM

Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 03:09:08 AM
RPro, what is the chances of having this tested in RXtreme? I only played a very small number of games, but I would like to see how this holds up over say 50,000 or 100,000 spins.

I'd love to have it coded. I think it will tank in the end as I have not known a system that doesn't to exist (That would be the Grail!). If we could get someone to code it for us, we'd be in business.

RPro75 · May 17, 2009, 03:31:07 AM

Quote from: RPro75 on May 17, 2009, 02:51:06 AM
I have to say that I think this is one fo the strongest systems I have developed. I have only experienced one small loss with the 12/4 Repeater System. The system allows for two repeats in your 12 number tracking stage, and then once you get your 12 numbers there is a 4 progression betting stage (which could easily be lengthened to 6 or 8 stages but it is not necessary). It breaks down like this: The tracking stage allows for no less than 10 unique numbers in 12 spins(remember if you have 3 repeats in this stage you must start over). You would then have to have 4 more unique numbers to lose the betting stage. That means that you would have to have 14-16 different numbers show in 16 spins to lose the cycle. You could extend the progression to 6 stages but I like to keep it at 4 so if you do blow it, you can easily recover and the odds are still really good. In terms of a 37 spin cycle, you would need 31-37 different numbers to show to lose overall. We know that on average 24-28 numbers show in 37 spins. I think that is why it is working so well. Can 16 different numbers show in 16 spins? Of course. Does it happen very often? Not from what I'm seeing.

Test with actuals from Weisbaden

Spin Number Type   Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0    400
1 29   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
2    3   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
3    8   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
4 22   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
5 28   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
6    0   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
7 17   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
8    2   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
9 17   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
10 23   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
11 25   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
12 21   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
13 11   No Bet    0    0 0   0    400
14 16   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 388 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
15 22   Bet    12    36 -12 24 412 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
16 25   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
17 33   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
18 17   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
19 13   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
20 16   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
21 23   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
22 16   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
23 23   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
24    5   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
25 20   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
26    9   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
27 26   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
28 33   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
29 28   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
30    6   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
31    4   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
32    3   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
33 31   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
34 29   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
35 20   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
36    7   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
37 30   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
38    9   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
39    5   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
40 11   No Bet    0    0 0   0    412
41 23   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 400 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
42 23   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 388 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
43 21   Bet    24    0   -24 -24 364 2 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
44    3   Bet    36 108 -36 72 436 3 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
45    1   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
46 24   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
47    2   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
48 18   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
49    2   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
50    9   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
51    8   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
52 16   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
53 30   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
54 22   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
55 20   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
56 29   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
57    0   No Bet    0    0 0   0    436
58 31   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 424 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
59 15   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 412 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
60 33   Bet    24    0   -24 -24 388 2 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
61 24   Bet    36 108 -36 72 460 3 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
62 30   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
63 32   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
64 21   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
65 14   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
66 14   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
67 10   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
68 17   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
69 35   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
70 11   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
71 22   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
72 21   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
73 15   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
74    1   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
75 36   No Bet    0    0 0   0    460
76    8   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 448 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
77 35   Bet    12    36 -12 24 472 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
78 29   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
79    5   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
80 16   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
81 23   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
82 19   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
83 32   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
84 25   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
85 22   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
86 21   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
87    7   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
88 27   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
89 28   No Bet    0    0 0   0    472
90 19   Bet    12    36 -12 24 496 1 : 5,7,16,19,21,22,23,25,27,28,29,32
91    8   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
92 27   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
93 19   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
94 31   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
95 14   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
96 25   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
97 31   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
98 17   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
99 18   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
100   32   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
101   12   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
102   31   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
103 2   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
104 1   No Bet    0    0 0   0    496
105   34   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 484 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
106 9   Bet    12    0   -12 -12 472 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
107   26   Bet    24    0   -24 -24 448 2 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
108 8   Bet    36 108 -36 72 520 3 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32

+120 units in 108 spins

Actually, after I thought about this a bit, the stats may not be quite right because you could have a number repeat after you start betting, which would lower the unique number/spins ratio. It doesn't happen very often but nevertheless, it happens. Just wanted to put that out there. So far, it hasn't seemed to affect my tests negatively.

babs · May 17, 2009, 02:35:49 PM

Played another six games. Lost two, won four. BR now at 563. From yesterday my bankroll lifted from 235 to 563. That is a profit of 328 from yesterday. Not all games were winners. Out of about 14 games, with real money, (if I remember correctly) about 4 were losers.

I have tested a lot of systems, but this one give me quite some confidence.

celiza427 · May 17, 2009, 02:52:53 PM

Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
Played another six games. Lost two, won four. BR now at 563. From yesterday my bankroll lifted from 235 to 563. That is a profit of 328 from yesterday. Not all games were winners. Out of about 14 games, with real money, (if I remember correctly) about 4 were losers.

I have tested a lot of systems, but this one give me quite some confidence.

Hey babs, nice to hear you're having success. May I ask if you are playing the 12/4 repeater system or the original one that RPro posted? Also, after a win do you re-track (ie do you just add the newest spin, look at the last 12 and if you have a betting op do you bet again right there?) or do you start tracking the next 12 spins then bet?

Thanks!

babs · May 17, 2009, 03:06:48 PM

QuoteHey babs, nice to hear you're having success.

Thanks, not sure if it will last. A lot of promising systems went belly up just when I thought it was going very well. But I must say, this one is really looking good at this point.

QuoteMay I ask if you are playing the 12/4 repeater system or the original one that RPro posted?

I play the 12/4 repeater. I did change my progression, as per RPro's advice, in the last few games: 1 2 3 4

QuoteAlso, after a win do you re-track (ie do you just add the newest spin, look at the last 12 and if you have a betting op do you bet again right there?)

I start tracking another 12 spins before betting again. Not sure which is the best method to do. I wonder if RPro could help us here. In some cases I had the feeling that simply looking at the previous spins and looking for 12 numbers could be profitable.

One area where I do differ a bit from RPro is he allows for 2 repeats within 12 numbers (when 3 repeats appears he retracks). I however prefer to play it safer. If I get 2 repeats I retrack 12 numbers. Also, I play online, so I switch tables regularly. Please try this system, but PLEASE PLEASE, do not use real money until you played it with some play money and gained some confidence in this system. I have tried a lot of systems that appeared great (and even made profit for other) and lost money... never play a system before testing it for yourself.

celiza427 · May 17, 2009, 03:19:42 PM

Thanks for the response babs! So basically you play the 12/4, allowing 1 repeat within 12 spins, but if 2 repeats occur you then scrap the numbers and start tracking again from the next spin for the next 12 spins?

I'm going to give this a shot, and don't worry not for real. I usually start my testing with RX first using both randoms & imported actuals.

babs · May 17, 2009, 03:30:19 PM

Had a bad session. Lost 4 out of 5 games. O well. We are playing Roulette

babs · May 17, 2009, 03:30:19 PM

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