Four Spins to Win System - Played with Real Money at Go Casino - See Inside

[yuejin]

Just a simple question . . . 

someone offers a system free and asks for constructive input to help give the player the edge . . .  not necessarily create the perfect system - "The Edge" - this means not winning all the time but winning more than losing ! and you get individuals who knock that . . . 

Just a little Example . . .  I'm an FX Trader . . .  so as you can imagine i have a bit of risk in my DNA . . .  the FX markets kill small traders (fortunately my funds are a fair size).  Again the  FX markets and any financial markets have often been compared to roulette - admittedly there is an element of skill . . .  but over the years many have developed systems that aim to give the player / trader the edge . . .  example Elliot Wave, Fibonacci, Stochastic , RSI, DeMark, momentum indicators, Bollinger bands the list is endless. . . . .  these tools  & systems aim to give you the edge . . .  DO NOT KNOCK THOSE WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO HELP GET THAT EDGE WHAT, IS THE POINT ?

I CANT GET THE NEED TO DISUADE SOME ONE WHO HAS OPENLY OFFERED HELP??

THIS MAY FAIL;   IT POSSIBLY WILL, BUT AT LEAST HE HAD A GO.  ITS THE EDGE WE ARE AFTER NOT THE HG! 

RJ JUST KEEP POSTING. .

[celiza427]

ITS THE EDGE WE ARE AFTER NOT THE HG! 

RJ JUST KEEP POSTING. .

Thank you!!  Agree with the whole post, but that was the best part, imo.

[Tangram]

Yes, I apologise 

No more non-constructive criticism from me. 

[rjeaton1]

Results from session #6 at Go Casino:  (it's my 2nd session today, 6th cumalitve since yesterday)

27 minutes of play time, 10 sessions won, 2 sessions lost for a total profit of +$130.   My BR is now at $1,280!!!!!!!!  (I'm freaking happy!!!!)

Here are the running totals since my start of play there yesterday:

149 minutes of playing time, 939 spins of the wheel, 66 sessions won, 6 (maybe 7) sessions lost, for a total profit of +$780!!

video number 5 is almost finished uploading, once it is the link will be posted here for all to see.  Same for number 6.

[celiza427]

... well you can't argue with success.  I am keen to learn the correct betting progression Robert and hope you will keep me informed.

PMed you some calculations 

[rjeaton1]

Thanks for all your efforts Celiza!  You are great!

Also, I will no longer be responding in any way to combatants of systems on this thread.  If I choose to respond (which I probably won't) in any way, I will do so in the pit, or wherever it belongs.

[Number Six]

DO NOT KNOCK THOSE WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO HELP GET THAT EDGE WHAT, IS THE POINT ?

Dude, you won't get an edge from this system. Eventually it will begin to lose at the expected 2.7/5.26%. That is absolutely undeniable. Just be realistic and stop "hoping" you have discovered something magnificant. I can see I'm swimming against the tide here and it's pointless so I'll leave you people with some constructive criticism, which I imagine you'll probably ignore: You at least need to incorporate some sort of situational play into the attack phase. Simply, when the random sequences turn hostile, don't bet and don't expend chips needlessly just because the rules say you should. It's easier said than done. Many people think "Oh, it has to hit on the next spin..." Bet in stages only when the random flow is moving towards your objective. Expand your betting opportunities, don't just rely on one event and hunt it down religiously. This approach is undynamic and randomness will engulf it like a tidal wave. You don't really need to overcome the house egde, all you have to do is avoid it. What you should be worried about is fluctuations and deviation. If you think you have a solid system, encase it in strategy. Keep your outlay low enough through controlled staking and the returns adequate. That way you'll technically gain an edge. You won't gain an edge by waiting for x and betting y.

[rjeaton1]

Dude, you won't get an edge from this system. Eventually it will begin to lose at the expected 2.7/5.26%. That is absolutely undeniable. Just be realistic and stop "hoping" you have discovered something magnificant. I can see I'm swimming against the tide here and it's pointless so I'll leave you people with some constructive criticism, which I imagine you'll probably ignore: You at least need to incorporate some sort of situational play into the attack phase. Simply, when the random sequences turn hostile, don't bet and don't expend chips needlessly just because the rules say you should. It's easier said than done. Many people think "Oh, it has to hit on the next spin..." Bet in stages only when the random flow is moving towards your objective. Expand your betting opportunities, don't just rely on one event and hunt it down religiously. This approach is undynamic and randomness will engulf it like a tidal wave. You don't really need to overcome the house egde, all you have to do is avoid it. What you should be worried about is fluctuations and deviation. If you think you have a solid system, encase it in strategy. Keep your outlay low enough through controlled staking and the returns adequate. That way you'll technically gain an edge. You won't gain an edge by waiting for x and betting y.

As this is an example of constructive criticism, I will say thanks!  (Sincerely.  I look for constructive criticism, but blatant defaming of a system I do not).

Also, what you said is interesting, if you have any ideas on how to do it please post them.

[rjeaton1]

Results from session #6 at Go Casino:  (it's my 2nd session today, 6th cumalitve since yesterday)

27 minutes of play time, 10 sessions won, 2 sessions lost for a total profit of +$130.   My BR is now at $1,280!!!!!!!!  (I'm freaking happy!!!!)

Here are the running totals since my start of play there yesterday:

149 minutes of playing time, 939 spins of the wheel, 66 sessions won, 6 (maybe 7) sessions lost, for a total profit of +$780!!

video number 5 is almost finished uploading, once it is the link will be posted here for all to see.  Same for number 6.

As mentioned in the post above video 5 has finished uploading.  If you'd like to read the results of session 5 before watching the video you can do so here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/four-spins-to-win-system/msg56087/#msg56087

The video download link is : nolinks://nolinks.megaupload.com/?d=XICT0OTY

[RPro75]

Thanks for all your efforts Celiza!  You are great!

Also, I will no longer be responding in any way to combatants of systems on this thread.  If I choose to respond (which I probably won't) in any way, I will do so in the pit, or wherever it belongs.

RJ, I think this is a smart approach.  Recently, I let the haters get to me and almost left the forum because of it.  I realized in the end that it was probably jealousy and a negative attitude that made them do that.  Ignoring them is a smart thing to do, but I also do something else.  It's called "killing them with kindness".  Many times, when someone attacks you or your hard work, they are just trying to get a "rise" out of you.  If you do not give them the anticipated and wanted reaction, they will usually just go away and post somewhere else or find someone else to harass.  Constructive criticism is welcome, and input is welcome, but negativity is certainly not.  I think your systems are fantastic and innovative and I implore you to keep posting and creating.

[Herb]

Just a simple question . . . 

someone offers a system free and asks for constructive input to help give the player the edge . . .  not necessarily create the perfect system - "The Edge" - this means not winning all the time but winning more than losing ! and you get individuals who knock that  . . . 

Just a little Example . . .  I'm an FX Trader . . .  so as you can imagine I have a bit of risk in my DNA . . .  the FX markets kill small traders (fortunately my funds are a fair size).  Again the  FX markets and any financial markets have often been compared to roulette - admittedly there is an element of skill . . .  but over the years many have developed systems that aim to give the player / trader the edge . . .  example Elliot Wave, Fibonacci, Stochastic , RSI, DeMark, momentum indicators, Bollinger bands the list is endless. . . . .  these tools  & systems aim to give you the edge . . .  DO NOT KNOCK THOSE WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO HELP GET THAT EDGE WHAT, IS THE POINT ?

I CANT GET THE NEED TO DISUADE SOME ONE WHO HAS OPENLY OFFERED HELP??

THIS MAY FAIL;   IT POSSIBLY WILL, BUT AT LEAST HE HAD A GO.  ITS THE EDGE WE ARE AFTER NOT THE HG! 

Don't be hypersensitive. What you view as an attack is actually just constructive criticism. 
Get use to it.  It's important to have it.  Otherwise we have the martingale,  the law of the third, hit and ran, etc,  being invented as a viable system at least once a week.  Learn from those that have traveled before you and build on their knowledge.  Learn from your critics.

Regards,

Herb

[cabbage]

I might not post much about roulette BUT some of what I do post is well worth a read  such as this....

"Jealousy" as Defined by Buddhism and "Envy" as Defined in English

The Buddhist abhidharmatexts classify "jealousy" (phrag-dog) as a part of hostility. They define it as "a disturbing emotion that focuses on other peoples' accomplishments – such as their good qualities, possessions, or success – and is the inability to bear their accomplishments, due to excessive attachment to our own gain or to the respect we receive."

Attachment, here, means that we are focused on some area of life in which others have accomplished more than we have, and we exaggerate its positive aspects. In our minds, we make this area one of the most important aspects of life and base our sense of self-worth on it. Implicit is an inordinate preoccupation withand attachment to "me." Thus, we are jealous because we are "attached to our own gain or to the respect we receive" in terms of this area. For example, we may fixate on the amount of money we have or on how good-looking we are. As an aspect of hostility, jealousy adds to this attachment a strong element of resentment at what others have achieved in this area. It is the opposite of rejoicing and feeling happy at what they have accomplished.

In English, one of the definitions of jealousy is "hostility toward someone believed to enjoy an advantage." It has only part of the Buddhist definition; it omits the factor of attachment to the area in which the other personhas the advantage. The definition only implies that the advantage may be true or not, but does not question the actual importance of the area or the preoccupation with "me."

Furthermore, jealousy, as defined in Buddhism, covers part, but not all of the English word envy. Envy adds a little more. It adds what Buddhism calls "covetousness" (brnab-sems). Covetousness is "the inordinate desire for something that someone else possesses." Thus, the definition of "envy" in English, is "a painful or resentful awarenessof an advantage enjoyed by someone else, joined with the desire to enjoy the same advantage." In other words, in addition to the inability to bear others' accomplishments in an area of life that, as Buddhism points out, we exaggerate the importance of, envy is the wish to have these accomplishments ourselves. We might be poor or lacking in this area, or we may already have an adequate or even above average measure of it. If we are envious and want even more, our covetousness has grown into greed. Often, although not necessarily, envy entails the further wish for others to be deprived of what they have achieved, so that we can have it instead. In this case, there is an ever further ingredient to the emotion, spite.

Envy, as a combination of jealousy and covetousness, leads to competitiveness. Thus, Trungpa Rinpoche discussed jealousy as the disturbing emotion that drives us to become highly competitive and to work fanatically to outdo others or ourselves. It is connected with forcefulaction – the so-called "karma family." Because of being jealous and envious of what others have accomplished, we push ourselves or we push others under us to do more and more, like withextreme competition in business or sports. Thus, Buddhism uses the horse to represent jealousy. It races against other horses because of jealousy. It cannot bear that another horse is running faster.

[cabbage]

LOL Viper for one is sure feeling some of the above 

[RPro75]

I might not post much about roulette BUT some of what I do post is well worth a read  such as this....

"Jealousy" as Defined by Buddhism and "Envy" as Defined in English

The Buddhist abhidharmatexts classify "jealousy" (phrag-dog) as a part of hostility. They define it as "a disturbing emotion that focuses on other peoples' accomplishments – such as their good qualities, possessions, or success – and is the inability to bear their accomplishments, due to excessive attachment to our own gain or to the respect we receive."

Attachment, here, means that we are focused on some area of life in which others have accomplished more than we have, and we exaggerate its positive aspects. In our minds, we make this area one of the most important aspects of life and base our sense of self-worth on it. Implicit is an inordinate preoccupation withand attachment to "me." Thus, we are jealous because we are "attached to our own gain or to the respect we receive" in terms of this area. For example, we may fixate on the amount of money we have or on how good-looking we are. As an aspect of hostility, jealousy adds to this attachment a strong element of resentment at what others have achieved in this area. It is the opposite of rejoicing and feeling happy at what they have accomplished.

In English, one of the definitions of jealousy is "hostility toward someone believed to enjoy an advantage." It has only part of the Buddhist definition; it omits the factor of attachment to the area in which the other personhas the advantage. The definition only implies that the advantage may be true or not, but does not question the actual importance of the area or the preoccupation with "me."

Furthermore, jealousy, as defined in Buddhism, covers part, but not all of the English word envy. Envy adds a little more. It adds what Buddhism calls "covetousness" (brnab-sems). Covetousness is "the inordinate desire for something that someone else possesses." Thus, the definition of "envy" in English, is "a painful or resentful awarenessof an advantage enjoyed by someone else, joined with the desire to enjoy the same advantage." In other words, in addition to the inability to bear others' accomplishments in an area of life that, as Buddhism points out, we exaggerate the importance of, envy is the wish to have these accomplishments ourselves. We might be poor or lacking in this area, or we may already have an adequate or even above average measure of it. If we are envious and want even more, our covetousness has grown into greed. Often, although not necessarily, envy entails the further wish for others to be deprived of what they have achieved, so that we can have it instead. In this case, there is an ever further ingredient to the emotion, spite.

Envy, as a combination of jealousy and covetousness, leads to competitiveness. Thus, Trungpa Rinpoche discussed jealousy as the disturbing emotion that drives us to become highly competitive and to work fanatically to outdo others or ourselves. It is connected with forcefulaction – the so-called "karma family." Because of being jealous and envious of what others have accomplished, we push ourselves or we push others under us to do more and more, like withextreme competition in business or sports. Thus, Buddhism uses the horse to represent jealousy. It races against other horses because of jealousy. It cannot bear that another horse is running faster.

Excellent post.

[rjeaton1]

Alright everybody, now that we've got out bickering out of our systems...anybody test this system yet?
Here are my results from my 7th session at Go Casino...again I state we're talking REAL MONEY HERE (3rd today, 7th cumulative since yesterday):

18 minutes long, 125 spins, 6 sessions won, 0 sessions lost for a profit of +$79    (my BR is now $1,359)

Running total from yesterday until now:

167 minutes of play time, 1,064 spins, 72 sessions won, 6 (possibly 7) sessions lost - total profit = +$859   

The video for session 6 will be finished uploading in one hour 14 minutes, once it is I will post that video.  Then I will upload this video and then post the link.

Enjoy!

[rjeaton1]

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