4Selecta Questions and Answers

[Mr Chips]

potatochips,
 
Yes I agree, it's a good idea and will include it in future.
 
Thanks
 
Mr Chips

[Nherisson]

Ok, now that I almost got all the rules, I want to learn when I have to exit.
I know there is a section about that but I need more examples, so let's start with these numbers which are attached.

Mr Chips, I can't wait for your report!

Thanks

Nherisson

[Mr Chips]

Hi Nherisson,
 
Hopefully you won't find too many mistakes I have developed too many complicated systems
 
Available Numbers
 
1, 20x2, 29
 
17x3, 8x2, 26, 9, 35, 27, 7
 
31, 5, 15
 
Main Table
 
[table=,]
LG,MG,HG,C
1,1,1,1
2,2,2,2
,,3,3
,,4,4
,,5,5
,,6,6
,,7,
[/table]
 

C Table
 
[table=,]
l,m,h
1,1,1
2,,2
3,,
[/table]
 
[table=,]
select spins,section groups,+/-,expected S G
1,1,,
2,17,-1,LG
3,8,-2,HG
4,31,-4,C(H)
5,17,+30,HG
6,26,+27,HG
7,20,+23,HG
8,9,+19,HG
9,35,+17,LG
10,27,+11,HG
11,20,+4,HG
12,29,-3,HG
13,7,-10,HG
14,8,+18,C(H)
15,0,+9,C(H)
16,5,0,HG
17,17,+63,C(H)
18,15,+53,HG
[/table]

Detailed Notes
 
select spin 5: A good start with a win. An available number from each of the groups.
 
select spin 10: Still in profit. HG is well in the lead. Good signs from this session, but would want
another win soon, as HG bets are now 7 units.
 
select spin 15: Back in profit after a small loss. Still a very positive session. Even 4Selecta has
to have an occasional zero lol. The H bets are now 9 units, so looking for a win soon or a few C
bets using L and M available numbers (cheap bets) to move the session along for a good win
later.
 
select spin 17: A good win. At this time it is important to evaluate the session and consider a
possible exit. The unit bet for H numbers is 10 units. H has dominated the session and a few
losing bets would soon deplete this profit. At some point LG and MG will start to catch up the
leader HG. The problem is there are too few available numbers from the groups L and M. When
considering all this information, it may be wise to retain as much of the profit as possible and
not go below +50 units.
 
select spin 18: Again a 10 unit bet, reducing the profit to +53. It looks as if the L and M
available numbers will now start to come in, but the bets are still likely to be 10 units.
C is just one short of levelling with the leader HG. A decision is made therefore to exit here
and take the profit of +53 units.

[Nherisson]

Many thanks Mr Chips!
I like your report which is very instructive.

Actually I got the same results than you but I exited later in the session till select spin 28 and I got +168 ! But I think your decision to exit at select spin 18 is more reasonable than mine.

Let's continue with these new numbers.

[Mr Chips]

Available numbers
 
29x2, 11, 28, 30, 12, 3
1,21,10
 
34, 35, 8, 18
 
6, 24
 
Main Table
 
[table=,]
LG,MG,HG,C
1,1,1,1
2,,2,2
3,,3,3
4
5
6
7
8
9
[/table]
 
C Table
 
[table=,]
l,m,h
1,1,1
[/table]
 
[table=,]
select spins,section groups,+/-,expected S G
1,29,,
2,29,+35,LG
3,11,+33,LG
4,28,+30,LG
5,30,+26,LG
6,34,+21,C(L)
7,0,+20,HG
8,35,+15,LG
9,12,+10,LG
10,6,+4,LG
11,3,-2,LG
12,1,-9,LG
13,8,-10,MG
14,21,-13,HG
15,10,-22,LG
16,24,-32,LG
17,18,-42,C(L)
18,0,-52,LG
[/table]
 
Detailed Notes
 
select spin 5: A very early win and a series of LG. The win will ensure a -50 unit approx minimum loss
if necessary. Hopefully there will be M and H available numbers in the next few spins. Do not want the
L number bets too high at this stage of the session.
 
select spin 10: Still just in profit. Good to see M and H available numbers and one low H bet. Still a
positive session. Hopefully a further win soon.
 
select spin 15: Four more L available numbers, which makes the L bets 10 units. Two low bets helped
(cheap bets) to keep the losses low, as the profit ended at select spin 11. Not enough M and H
available numbers. The original positive session has declined. Only the one hit.
 
select spin 18: The session has reached -52 units, which is in line with the -50 approx minimum loss.
An evaluation of the session must now be considered. All positive signs have ended. There could well
be hits further on in the session, but that would be a high risk proposition, as there are no positive
signs to support such a proposition. If the L bets were to increase further, with no wins, the loss
situation would escalate to -100 units approx, therefore it would be more realistic to exit with a -50
unit loss, in line with the systems minimum loss strategy.
 
It is unfortunate to have lost the early profit, but it did enable the session to exit with a minimum
loss, which will enable the system to make long term profits.

[Nherisson]

Great Mr Chips!
I got the same results than you and I exited at the same time. I'm so happy 

I'm testing with numbers from Wiesbaden, April 2009, Table 7. I would like to compare your results with mine, do you think it's possible? Or at least the first two weeks...

Thanks

Nherisson

[Mr Chips]

Hi Nherisson,
 
Yes, but it may take a while to complete the sessions. I will add the results to those showing in the 4Selecta thread.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips

[Nherisson]

Ok Mr Chips 

I got an interesting C session on the 8th April 2009, Table 7. When you will have time, can you have a look on these numbers please?
Sorry to give you works but your system is so interesting!! 

Cheers

Nherisson

[Mr Chips]

Hi Nherisson,

I will be able to do it on Sunday
 
I have started putting the 4Selecta onto a website and possibly other systems as well, but it will take a while to finish it.
I thought it would be a good idea to also have it in French and as you understand 4Selecta very well now, perhaps you
would be interested in explaining it in French.
 
Perhaps when we have finished the testing here, we can discuss it further at that time.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips

[Nherisson]

Hi Mr Chips,

It will be an honour to explain the 4Selecta in French. In this time, I don't have so much time to do that but I think later it will be ok. Actually I need more practices to understand when we have to exit because it's still a bit unclear for me.

Ok, let me know when I could visit your new website! 

Nherisson

[Nherisson]

Mr Chips,

I have a question... Maybe we already discuss about that but I want to be sure.

So let's say that MG is the leader in the Main Table, followed by LG (2nd), C(3rd and the last active group!) and HG (4th).
Then come these numbers:

34
2
?

Here we can't expect an MG session so we expect an LG (because it's the second leader) or an C (because it's the last active group)?

Thanks

Nherisson

[Mr Chips]

 
Hi Nherisson,
 
I am pleased that you like the idea of explaining  4Selecta in French, when we have more time we can discuss about putting on
a website.
 
In answer to you question it will be the second leader LG.
 
I will detail the C session later today.
 
Mr Chips

[Mr Chips]

Available numbers
 
7x2, 17, 36x2, 8, 35, 18
 
3, 28, 19, 30, 20, 11

24x3, 22
 
Main Table
 
[table=,]
LG,MG,HG,C
1,1,1,1
2,2,2,2
3,,3,3
4,,,4
,,,5
,,,6
,,,7
,,,8
,,,9
[/table]
 
C Table
 
[table=,]
l,m,h
1,1,1
2,2,2
,,3
,,4
,,5
[/table]

[table=,]
select spins,section groups,+/-,expected S G
1,7,,
2,17,-1,HG
3,3,-3,C(H)
4,24,-5,HG
5,36,-7,C(H)
6,22,-8,C(M)
7,7,+25,C(H)
8,28,+24,C(L)
9,19,+20,C(H)
10,30,+17,C(L)
11,36,+49,C(H)
12,8,+44,C(H)
13,35,+38,C(H)
14,0,+34,C(L)
15,20,+32,C(M)
16,24,+25,C(H)
17,11,+22,C(M)
18,18,+19,C(M)
19,24,+13,C(L)
[/table]
 
Detailed Notes

select spin 5: Usual start, an available number from each group. Hopefully HG and C won't stay level for most of the session.
 
select spin 10: A win, which means a -50 approx minimum loss, if necessary. A good selection of available numbers. Bets are
low. A positive session.
 
select spin 15: Another win. Would like to retain some profit from this session or break even. Bets are reasonable and some are
low (cheap bets). Good selection of numbers.
 
select spin 19: Missed a good win, must therefore evaluate the session at this stage. There are still some positive signs, a
difficult decision to make here. The bets are still reasonable. At select spin 15 wanted to retain some profit or break even.
The missed win was the deciding factor to exit here.
 
As there are still positive signs it's not incorrect to continue this session. If the profit was +60 instead of +49, then definitely
must retain some profit and not risk a minimum loss session. +49 is a borderline decision, as to whether to continue or exit
the session.

[Nherisson]

Hi Mr Chips and thank you for your report!

I didn't get the same results than you because I activated the C Table at select spin 17 because if the C column was not the leader it would have been a win at select spin 16 (H). Moreover, C was well in the lead. So why you didn't activate it?

Regards

Nherisson

[Mr Chips]

Hi Nherisson,
 
The C Table is only activated during a losing session.

Please see Reply 36 and 51 in this thread and 'When to Exit a 4Selecta session' para 5.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips

[Mr Chips]

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