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Started by Jakkalsdraai, December 05, 2007, 03:52:10 PM

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Jakkalsdraai

Hi guys,

I have been screwing around with various systems especially at Dublinbet. One that really worked well went like this. Place 1 unit on the corners of 1,2,4,5  &  8,9,11,12  &  13,14,16,17  &  20,21,23,24  &   25,26,28,29  &  32,33,35,36. If you loose, add 1 unit on each corner. I found now with several sessions to have made a profit.

My latest one is most probably a bit like re-inventing the wheel. I'm sure that there are thousands of similar systems...so I'm not claiming any fame! That goes with all the systems I use! Hell, the first time I played seriously Roulette I thought I discovered and invented the most perfect system regarding even bets and playing the Reds & Blacks...I believe thay call it the Martingale system!!!! :-[ [smiley=cheesy.gif] Oh well at least I thought it was great because I won like 400 units first time around...unfortunately I lost that the next day and some...And then I saw the Martingale system everywhere and how dangerous it was...but then I already new that!  :o

Anyway here goes. I track the last 17 numbers (I like the number 17). If a number appears more than once it only counts as one number. Now that I have that I bet $1 per number as tracked. So that would be $17. If ya should loose, bet one unit again on the same numbers but add in the last number that appeared and omit the oldest number in the list. If ya should loose again, add one unit per number, add last number, omit oldest number. I'm only playing fun money at Dublinbet. I started with 1000, I am currently on 5008. I must be clear that I only play the live wheel and not RNG.

If anyone wants to try and let me know what ya think I'll appreciate it.

Cheers

If my Auntie had balls she'd be my Uncle... ;D

metalrat

Hi,

I played about 50 spins using this system at DublinBet. While doing alright during the first 25-30 spins it went sour after that because the distance between hits increased.
What progression do you use above 3 losses in a row?
I noticed a 1-1-2 progression in your description, but betting an average of 14 units takes its toll pretty quickly.

regards,

metalrat

Jakkalsdraai

Hey Metalrat,

Yes I used a 1123 type progression.

I could've been extremely lucky but I never really went past the above progression. I do believe that one has to bet high on each number, after tracking the 17 numbers. That way you can keep the session shorter but more profitable.

Still playing around with it myself! Do think that on can get good results here. Maybe one should bet 10 straight bets (10 x 17 numbers) in a row after the 17 numbers tracked. The 10 bets should be high bets. Then wait 10 spins and track 17 numbers again. Just a thought. What do you think? Do you have any other suggestions?

Thanx for your replies.

Kind regards

Jakkalsdraai  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

roger

QuoteHi guys,

I have been screwing around with various systems especially at Dublinbet. One that really worked well went like this. Place 1 unit on the corners of 1,2,4,5  &  8,9,11,12  &  13,14,16,17  &  20,21,23,24  &   25,26,28,29  &  32,33,35,36. If you loose, add 1 unit on each corner. I found now with several sessions to have made a profit.

My latest one is most probably a bit like re-inventing the wheel. I'm sure that there are thousands of similar systems...so I'm not claiming any fame! That goes with all the systems I use! Hell, the first time I played seriously Roulette I thought I discovered and invented the most perfect system regarding even bets and playing the Reds & Blacks...I believe thay call it the Martingale system!!!! :-[ [smiley=cheesy.gif] Oh well at least I thought it was great because I won like 400 units first time around...unfortunately I lost that the next day and some...And then I saw the Martingale system everywhere and how dangerous it was...but then I already new that!  :o

Anyway here goes. I track the last 17 numbers (I like the number 17). If a number appears more than once it only counts as one number. Now that I have that I bet $1 per number as tracked. So that would be $17. If ya should loose, bet one unit again on the same numbers but add in the last number that appeared and omit the oldest number in the list. If ya should loose again, add one unit per number, add last number, omit oldest number. I'm only playing fun money at Dublinbet. I started with 1000, I am currently on 5008. I must be clear that I only play the live wheel and not RNG.

If anyone wants to try and let me know what ya think I'll appreciate it.

Cheers

If my Auntie had balls she'd be my Uncle... ;D

I'dont understand Why should you track the last 17 nummbers?
i've used this system only placing chips one the corners you've mentioned and hit 19 times out of 25.

Jakkalsdraai

Hey Roger.  ;)

These are two complete different systems.

The corner bets are basically my backup system or recovery. I think it's pretty much a sure winner. Did well for me on Sat**day as well at Grand West Casino.

The second system is totally seperate from the above corner system. While playing the corner system you can track the last 17 numbers (remember a number that repeats, only counts as 1 number!) Once you now have 17 different numbers, bet on these numbers with a progression system. While doing this you can still play the corner system at the same time as a backup. I like playing it that way. Seems to work quite well. Try it that way and let me know what ya think!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=grin.gif]

Kind regards
Jakkalsdraai

metalrat

Hi Jakkalsdraai,

I really like your corner system. Its taken me with fun money from 540 to 2500 today at DublinBet. Of course if you hit a losing streek it will take you down fast but up until now it performs very well.

Kind regards,

metalrat

Jakkalsdraai

 ;D Hey Metalrat!

Thanx, I agree though...Cannot believe that it is infallible. However I haven't had a bad session with it either. All info on Roulette would suggest that one would say have a +/- 2/3 winning rate but a loss would cost you slightly more than that. So you would have to win say 4 to the 1 loss to be around about equal.  So you should end up equal or slightly down... :(  Well you should but so far it's been great and I'll stick with it until it busts on me. I regularly end up getting up to 10 wins in a row. Never had more than 3 losses in a row.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Let's stick to it and keep record. Like to compare this with you at regular intervals. Have ya tried the last 17 again as well?

Kind regards

Jakkalsdraai [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=cool.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

Jakkalsdraai

 ;D Hey Metalrat,

Just noticed again that my Roulette knowledge lacks quite considerably. Instead of using the corner bets, use for instance 1/4 your bet and then bet straight on the numbers. 0,3,1,2,4,5,8,9,11,12,13,14,16,17,20,21,23,24,25,26,28,29,32,33,35,36.

Your odds for corner bets are 8-1, splits are 17-1 but straight up obviously 35-1. So if you used 50c per number you'd bet 13 euros.
If you win you'd make 18 euros. You earn more for basically the same bet.

Just a thought.
Progression so far hasn't been a problem. Again haven't gone past 3 losses in a row. When I loose I tripple the bet, I find trippling the next bet works well. So far so good! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

I'm currently on 8200 fun euros at Dublinbet. If only the fun euros were real... [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

metalrat

Hey Jakkalsdraai,

I forgot to tell you, the 500 to 2500 I did was with flat betting only. It works much faster using a progression like you described. I must say I have come across 4 losses in a row. Now DublinBet has a table limit as you know of € 10,-- per number: 0.5 - 1.5 - 3 - 9 - ...... But then again, if you started with 1000 units and are now at 8000+....

Kind regards,

metalrat

Jakkalsdraai

Yes, that's true. There is a table limit. You can though increase your bets by then splitting as well if it comes to that  [smiley=wink.gif]. Also use corners combined with splits and straight ups.

Works quite well.

Let me know how it goes.

Kind regards

Jakkalsdraai :)

Jakkalsdraai

 ;) Starting with 50c then 150c then 450c then 1000c (because 10 euros per number only). Now make up the rest (350c per number) by splitting two numbers by 700c. There ya have a four in a row loss progression. The fourth bet amounts to 1350c per number.  [smiley=wink.gif]

Let me know if ya agree with this.

Kind regards
Jakkalsdraai  [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

roger

QuoteHey Roger.  ;)

These are two complete different systems.

The corner bets are basically my backup system or recovery. I think it's pretty much a sure winner. Did well for me on Sat**day as well at Grand West Casino.

The second system is totally seperate from the above corner system. While playing the corner system you can track the last 17 numbers (remember a number that repeats, only counts as 1 number!) Once you now have 17 different numbers, bet on these numbers with a progression system. While doing this you can still play the corner system at the same time as a backup. I like playing it that way. Seems to work quite well. Try it that way and let me know what ya think!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=grin.gif]

Kind regards
Jakkalsdraai

Hey Jakkalsdraai,

Well i've tried your system several times in fun mode now at dublin bet (where else) and it worked out pretty well i must say, but i prefer the 'the corner system' above the last 'last 17' athoug i somtimes lost big time.


Jakkalsdraai

Thanx Roger.

I think it does need a bit of tweaking. Played at Grand West Casino on Sat**day. Started with R400, my target was R1500. Got to R1150, then hit 5 losses in a row. With the tripple progression I saw my hiny big time. Will find a better betting strategy though. Thinking of something like placing 4 units per corner. If I loose add 1 per corner. If I win deduct one per corner. When you reach 1 unit per corner play that and then start new series with four units per corner again.

If anyone knows a better betting way, please advise. So far the problem seems to be with the way that 4 to 5 losses  can happen and we have to find a way to soften the blow and then ride the winning streak. Again on Sat**day at one stage I had a winning streak of 19 wins in a row.

Anyhow let's see what we can come up with! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Cheers
Jakkalsdraai


kawa4711

Hi, Jakkalsdraai,

how would it be to wait for some losses (perhaps2,3 or 4  in a row) and then flat betting till a nice profit?.
I ve tested some OC - numbers and it did really food.

Best regards

kawa4711

roger

QuoteThanx Roger.

I think it does need a bit of tweaking. Played at Grand West Casino on Sat**day. Started with R400, my target was R1500. Got to R1150, then hit 5 losses in a row. With the tripple progression I saw my hiny big time. Will find a better betting strategy though. Thinking of something like placing 4 units per corner. If I loose add 1 per corner. If I win deduct one per corner. When you reach 1 unit per corner play that and then start new series with four units per corner again.

If anyone knows a better betting way, please advise. So far the problem seems to be with the way that 4 to 5 losses  can happen and we have to find a way to soften the blow and then ride the winning streak. Again on Sat**day at one stage I had a winning streak of 19 wins in a row.

Anyhow let's see what we can come up with! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Cheers
Jakkalsdraai



Well, thats why the corners system is not my main system, they smallest bet i play is €5 so then your quik at the 'bet max' of €40 for corners.
So this how i play it  1-1-2-2-3-3-5-5 enz when i'm at the limit i start over again and when i lose i take 2 steps ahead 1w-1l- 3w-3w-4-4 enz i hope its clear or if you think i'm crazy then say so so i can learn.

roger

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