Test of Clothdog's Root System

bloomone2002 · May 07, 2008, 11:57:58 AM

Thanks, for sharing keep us updated. I will post another session

Clothdog · May 07, 2008, 01:42:57 PM

QuoteHey Bloomone, decided to give your way of playing a try after i calculated that your session would have won $260 and mine would have lost $63 so here's a small sample of two of my sessions tonite:

May 7/08

33-r6
9-r9
6-r6 WIN
27-r9 WIN
12-r3
24-r6 WIN

NEW SESSION

25-r7
19-r1
26-r8
30-r3
23-r5 WIN you missed a play here
30-r3
17-r8
12-r3 WIN
cd

bloomone2002 · May 07, 2008, 02:01:37 PM

Ok everyone, I posting the previous session again with the calculations, which is approximately correct. I may have a couple minor mistakes. I also included a 2nd approach of the same session as comparison that way done by cps10 for me. Thanks cps10. Now keep in mind everyone this doesnt include CD, latest and greatest nuggets he's shared with us. Which would typically be far less betting because you would be watching the wheel for more definite trends within the system. I think that is a separate study all together. so here goes

My session approach 1 with calculations:
Spin# number Group W/L Comments
1 9 r9
2 20 r2
3 17 r8
4 5 r5 (play 7-8, 4spins)
5 24 r6 L-8
6 4 r4 L-16 (new group, play 6-9)
7 2 r2 L-28
8 4 r4 L-40 (play play 4-6-9)
9 28 r1 L-52
10 23 r5 L-64 (lost 4 spins playing 4-6-9),retrack
11 14 r5 -64 (repeater root, play 5-7-8)
12 28 r1 L-76
13 29 r2 L-88
14 36 r9 L-100
15 4 r4 L-112 (lost 4spins w/5-7-8),retrack, Play 6-9
16 1 r1 L-124
17 29 r2 L-136 (new group, play 1-3)
18 10 r1 W-108 (win, retrack, play 2-3)
19 7 r7
20 30 r3 w-80 (win, retrack, play 1-2 & 0)
21 22 r4 L-88
22 28 r1 w-60 (win, retrack, play 2-3 & 0)
23 30 r3 w-32 (win, retrack, play 1-2 & 0)
24 27 r9 L-40
25 12 r3 L-48 (r3 so play whole group 1-2-3 & 0)
26 36 r9 L-60 (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
27 7 r7 L-72
28 4 r4 w-48 (win, retrack, play 6-9)
29 24 r6 w-20 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
30 4 r4 w 8 (win, retrack, play repeater 4= 4-6-9)
31 35 r8 L-4
32 15 r6 w20 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
33 34 r7 L12 (new group, play 5-8)
34 31 r4 L4 (dang would have hit the previous group)
35 17 r8 w32 (won anyway, retrack, play 5-7)
36 15 r6 L24 (new group, play 4-9)
37 26 r8 L16 (dang previous group hit again)
38 1 r1 L8
39 14 r5 w36 (won anyway, retrack, play 7-8)
40 16 r7 w64 (win, retrack, play 5-8)
41 3 r3 L56
42 35 r8 w84 (win, retrack, play 5-7)
43 12 r3 L76 (new group, repeater root 3, play 1-2-3)
44 5 r5 L64 (dang, previous group hit again)
45 22 r4 L52
46 27 r9 L40 (new group, play 4-6)
47 6 r6 w68 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
48 10 r1 L56
49 23 r5 L44
50 31 r4 w72 (win, retrack)
51 25 r7 (play 5-8)
52 9 r9 L64
53 31 r4 L56 (new group, play 6-9)
54 30 r1 L48
55 28 r1 L40 (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
56 12 r3 w64 (win, retrack, play 2-3)
57 25 r7 L56
58 0 r123 L48 (play 1-2-3 & 0)
59 2 r2 w62 (win, retrack, play 1-2-3 & 0)
60 16 r7 L50
61 29 r2 w74 (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
62 11 r2 w98 (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
63 7 r7 L86
64 29 r2 w110 (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
65 4 r4 L98
66 6 r6 L86 (new group, play 4-9)
67 10 r1 L78 (dang previous group hit again)
68 19 r1 L70 (dang previous group hit 2x, new group, play 1-2-3)
69 9 r9 L58 (dang new previous group hit)
70 28 r1 w72 (win, retrack, play 1-2-3)
71 9 r9 L60 (new group, repeater root, play 4-6-9)
72 22 r4 w74 (win, retrack, play 6-9)
73 36 r9 w102 (win, retrack, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
74 7 r7 L90
75 18 r9 w114 (win, retrack, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
76 34 r7 L102 (new group, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
77 36 r9 L90 (previous group hit)
78 7 r7 w114 (win, retrack, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8) Stopwin
79 9 r9 L102 (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
80 15 r6 w126 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
81 0 r123 L118
82 13 r4 w146 (win, retrack, play 6-9)
83 1 r1 L138 (new group, retrack, play 1-2-3 & 0)
84 3 r3 w162 (win, retrack, play 2-3)
85 33 r6 L154
86 11 r2 w182 (win, retrack, play 1-3)
87 14 r5 L174
88 23 r5 L166 (new group, repeater root 5, play 5-7-8)
89 32 r5 w190 (win, retrack, repeater root 5, play 5-7-8)
90 26 r8 w214 (win, retrack, play 5-7) stop win
91 30 r1 L206
92 16 r7 w234 (win, retrack, play 5-8)
93 35 R8 W262 (win, retrack, play 5-7)
94 34 r7 w290 (win, retrack, play 5-8)
95 3 r1 L282
96 24 r6 L274
97 4 r4 L266 (new group, retrack, play 6-9)
98 6 r6 w290 (win, retrack, repeater root 6, play 4-6-9) stopwin
99 34 r7 L278
100 34 r7 L266 (new group, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
101 13 r4 L254 (previous root hit)
102 30 r1 L242
103 24 r6 L230 (back to previous root, play 4-9)
104 28 r1 L218 (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
105 9 r9 L206 (previous root hit again)
106 1 r1 w230 (win, retrack, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3) stopwin
107 18 r9 L218 (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
108 16 r7 L206
109 28 r1 L194
110 8 r8 L182 (new group, play 5-7)
111 30 r1 L174 (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
112 12 r3 w198 (session end)

2nd approach by cps10 with calculations

Spin # Number Root Play W/L Prof/Loss Total
1 9 9
2 20 2
3 17 8
4 5 5 Roots 7/8
5 24 6 L -8 -8
6 4 4 L -8 -16
7 2 2 L -8 -24
8 4 4 Retrack L -8 -32
9 28 1 -32
10 23 5 -32
11 14 5 Roots 578 -32
12 28 1 L -12 -44
13 29 2 L -12 -56
14 36 9 L -12 -68
15 4 4 Retrack L -12 -80
16 1 1 -80
17 29 2 Roots 1/3 -80
18 10 1 Retrack W 28 -52
19 7 7 -52
20 30 3 -52
21 22 4 -52
22 28 1 Roots 2/3 -52
23 30 3 Retrack W 28 -24
24 27 9 -24
25 12 3 -24
26 36 9 Roots 469 -24
27 7 7 L -12 -36
28 4 4 Retrack W 24 -12
29 24 6 -12
30 4 4 Roots 6/9 -12
31 35 8 L -8 -20
32 15 6 Retrack W 28 8
33 34 7 8
34 31 4 8
35 17 8 Roots 5/7 8
36 15 6 L -8 0
37 26 8 L -8 -8
38 1 1 L -8 -16
39 14 5 Retrack W 28 12
40 16 7 12
41 3 3 12
42 35 8 Roots 5/7 12
43 12 3 L -8 4
44 5 5 Retrack W 28 32
45 22 4 32
46 27 9 Roots 4/6 32
47 6 6 Retrack W 28 60
48 10 1 60
49 23 5 60
50 31 4 60
51 25 7 Roots 5/8 60
52 9 9 L -8 52
53 31 4 L -8 44
54 30 3 L -8 36
55 28 1 Retrack L -8 28
56 12 3 28
57 25 7 28
58 0 Roots 1/2 28
59 2 2 Retrack W 28 56
60 16 7 56
61 29 2 56
62 11 2 Roots 123 56
63 7 7 L -12 44
64 29 2 Retrack W 24 68
65 4 4 68
66 6 6 Roots 4/9 68
67 10 1 L -8 60
68 19 1 L -8 52
69 9 9 Retrack W 28 80
70 28 1 80
71 9 9 80
72 22 4 Roots 6/9 80
73 36 9 Retrack W 28 108
74 7 7 108
75 18 9 108
76 34 7 Roots 578 108
77 36 9 L -12 96
78 7 7 Retrack W 24 120
79 9 9 120
80 15 6 Roots 4/9 120
81 0 L -8 112
82 13 4 Retrack W 28 140
83 1 1 140
84 3 3 Roots 1/2 140
85 33 6 L -8 132
86 11 2 Retrack W 28 160
87 14 5 160
88 23 5 Roots 578 160
89 32 5 Retrack W 24 184
90 26 8 184
91 30 3 184
92 16 7 Roots 5/8 184
93 35 8 Retrack W 28 212
94 34 7 212
95 3 3 212
96 24 6 212
97 4 4 Roots 6/9 212
98 6 6 Retrack W 28 240
99 34 7 240
100 34 7 Roots 578 240
101 13 4 L -12 228
102 30 3 L -12 216
103 24 6 L -12 204
104 28 1 Retrack L -12 192
105 9 9 192
106 1 1 192
107 18 9 Roots 469 192
108 16 7 L -12 180
109 28 1 L -12 168
110 8 8 L -12 156
111 30 3 Retrack L -12 144
112 12 3 ~~End~~

WhiteKnight · May 07, 2008, 03:25:46 PM

Quote
QuoteHey Bloomone, decided to give your way of playing a try after i calculated that your session would have won $260 and mine would have lost $63 so here's a small sample of two of my sessions tonite:

May 7/08

33-r6
9-r9
6-r6 WIN
27-r9 WIN
12-r3
24-r6 WIN

NEW SESSION

25-r7
19-r1
26-r8
30-r3
23-r5 WIN you missed a play here
30-r3
17-r8
12-r3 WIN
cd

Hey CD, just to let you know I didnt Win with 23 because i switched from 5,7 to 1,2, since I was playing the other way of requalifying new roots...

Also, briefly tried playing the streets you mentioned when group 1,2,3 shows up, but didnt really find it was profitable since I was betting $5 to only win $12...if I lost the next one, then I have to increase the bets on the streets to try to make it back. Do you only play the streets if any of the roots from 1,2,3 are repeaters, or do you even play the streets if only 2 roots of the group shows up? In one of your example you played the streets after 2, 20 showed back to back, and in the other you played the streets after 10,20 (roots 1 and 2) showed? Dont feel obligated to answer, you've already been really helpful as it is!!

Clothdog · May 07, 2008, 07:21:19 PM

you can switch the roots around with a new signal. you really have to look at the board to see what roots are falling. I mean if you saw roots 5&7 hit and then roots 1&2 hit in between, look at the board. If you have 578 hitting and don't see any 123 I wouldn't switch. You will also notice that the groups themselves sleep. stay away from sleepers.
If the table is crowded sometimes it's just faster to get bets down when playing streets. also my bets are much bigger on the streets.
cd

WhiteKnight · May 07, 2008, 07:43:21 PM

CD,

Your response makes so much sense regarding switching groups and increasing the bet on the streets, thanks so much again for your words of wisdom!!

I just wanted to ask, does this system depend on dealer signatures etc? Because i have been playing live of course, but at a casino where the wheel is not spun from the previous number; instead, after the number comes up, the dealer then spins the wheel and waits for all the bets and then drops the ball, usually the wheel spins 40seconds before the ball is dropped again. However, having said this, so far the system has worked with the results I posted before, so that is why I was wondering if you designed this system based on dealer signatures etc? I guess as you said before though, the board gives indication of what roots to choose, even if the dealer in my case is not spinning the wheel and dropping the ball in the same manner that would happen in a land-based casino or dublinbet.

Clothdog · May 07, 2008, 11:07:31 PM

A monkey can be spinning the ball.
cd

iggy · May 08, 2008, 12:04:23 AM

QuoteA monkey can be spinning the ball.
cd

HaHaHaHa - Too Funny

iggy

bloomone2002 · May 08, 2008, 04:36:43 AM

Ok, I played with CD's enhancement just a little bit on this next session. This takes a little experience to get good at it.

Session2 Table 10 4/2/08
Spin# number Grp W/L Comments
1 21 r3
2 5 r5 (play 7-8)
3 7    r7
4 31    r4 L
5 16 r7 w (wait for new trend)
6 0 r123
7 13    r4
8 29 r2
9 14    r5
10 7    r7 play the 578 group it is hot 5-8
11 27    r9 L-8
12 28    r1 L-16
13 36    r9 L-24 (new group repeater 9, 4-6-9)
14 24    r6 w 0 (play 4-9)
15 17    r8 L-8
16 26    r8 L-16 (new group 5-7-8)
17 3    r3 L-24
18 0    r123 L-36 (new group 1-2-3)
19 10    r1 W-12 (continue)
20 11    r2 w 12 (play 1-2-3, hot group)
21 31    r4 L 0 (continue)
22 11    r2 w 24 (continue)
23 21    r3 w 48 (continue)
24 9    r9 L 36 wait for new signal
25 31    r4 play 6-9
26 32    r5 L 28
27 30    r1 L 20
28 24    r6 w 48 wait for new signal
29 34    r7
30 35    r8 play 5-7
31 6    r6 L40
32 25    r7 w68 continue
33 32    r5 w96 continue
34 33    r6 L88 wait
35 17    r8 wait
36 0    r123 (play group, because the trend hits in 1 or 2 spins)
37 3    r3 w112 continue
38 22    r4 w100 wait
39 35    r8
40 26    r8 repeater 8, play 5-7-8
41 30    r3 L88 switch to the hot 1-2-3 group, play 1-2
42 20    r2 w116 continue w/group switch to 1-3
43 3    r3 w144 continue with 1-2
44 13    r4 wait
45 14    r5 wait
46 11    r2 switch to 1-2-3
47 36    r9 L132 wait
48 35    r8
49 17    r8 repeater 8, play 5-7-8
50 33    r6 L120 this is not the hot 123 group so continue
51 16    r7 w144 wait
52 30    r1 play 2-3
53 22    r4 L136 continue
54 27    r9 L128 group 123 is falling off, play 4-6
55 15    r6 w156 wait
56 26    r8 wait
57 34    r7 play 5-8
58 22    r4 L148 continue
59 19    r1 L140 change to hot group play 2-3
60 0    r123 L132 didnt play the zero, play 1-2-3
61 7    r7 L120 wait
62 12    r3 wait( group 1-2-3 is getting tricky)
63 27    r9
64 22    r4 play 6-9
65 19    r1 L112 switch to 2-3
66 2    r2 w140 wait
67 35    r8 wait
68 4    r4
69 27    r9 wait (because the 469 group has been skipping)
70 2    r2 play 4-6
71 9    r9 L132 missed the 9, play 4-6-9
72 13    r4 w156 wait
73 20    r2 go back to 1-3
74 32    r5 L148 wait
75 11    r2 play 1-2-3
76 17    r8 L136
77 34    r7 L124 new group 5-8
78 5    r5 w152 wait
79 22    r4
80 4    r4 play 4-6-9
81 22    r4 w176 continue
82 26    r8 L164 continue
83 21    r3 L152 continue
84 23    r5 L140 continue
85 4    r4 w168 wait
86 29    r2 L160 play 1-3
87 16    r7 wait
88 10    r1 play 2-3
89 12    r3 w188 wait
90 7    r7 wait
91 27    r9
92 29    r2
93 31    r4 play 6-9
94 18    r9 w216 stopwin end session
95 33
96 25
97 13

Clothdog · May 08, 2008, 09:27:21 AM

Bloom,
yes, you're getting the hang of it. i've looked at thousands of spins. You have to be observant and not just bet blindly. The trend is your friend. Set a reasonable goal for yourself and get out when you hit it. If i have the time at some point I will post another way I use this. To all, PLease don't send PM's. I won't respond.
Good luck.

cd

bloomone2002 · May 08, 2008, 11:25:46 AM

Thanks CD for the validation

Look forward to review and test the other way to us it!
Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 30, 2008, 12:07:47 PM

Has anyone notice the following with CD Root System? Maybe, some one has been able to capitalize on these pattern. Im not sure yet how to isolate the indicators or triggers. Can anyone expand on this idea?

Spin 4 and 6, bring spin 8
Spin 13 bring Spin 14 and spin 14 bring spin 15
Spin 16 bring spin 19
Spin 21 bring spin 22

1, 33 r6
2 22 r4
3 32 r5
[highlight]4 10 r1 [/highlight]
5 35 r8
[highlight]6 30 r3 [/highlight]
7 36 r9
[highlight]8 0 r123 [/highlight]
9 3 r3
10 34 r7
11 28 r1
12 3 r3
[highlight]13 15 r6
14 5 r5
15 15 r6 [/highlight]
16 29 r1
17 27 r9
18 23 r5
19 19 r1
20 0 r123
[highlight]21 21 r3
22 12 r3[/highlight]
Spin 77 bring 79 bring 82 bring 83
Spin 84 bring 86
Spin 87 bring spin 88

65 17 r8
66 9 r9
67 9 r9
68 0 r123
69 21 r3
70 18 r9
71 34 r7
72 13 r4
73 32 r5
74 33 r6
75 17 r8
76 35 r8
[highlight]77 9 r9 [/highlight]
78 21 r3
[highlight]79 19 r1 [/highlight]
80 4 r4
81 7 r7
[highlight]82 19 r1
83 29 r2 [/highlight]
[highlight]84 22 r4[/highlight]
85 21 r3
[highlight]86 22 r4[/highlight]
[highlight]
87 5 r5
88 25 r7[/highlight]
Bloom

TwoCatSam · May 30, 2008, 02:55:50 PM

Dang! I've all but abandoned my own thread!!

bloom

Ah, you touched a chord with Ol' TwoCat when you speak of numbers "bringing" other numbers.

Back a year ago I postulated that certain numbers enticed other numbers to appear. I have noted this phenomenon many, many times.

Recently I read a book on coincidence. One scientist advanced the theory that "things like to happen together". I firmly believe this

I used to sell parts. We'd have a seldom-needed part on the shelf and would not sell one for months. As soon as we sold it, before we could get to the supplier, another customer wanted one. This happened too many times for us not to notice. People who were new commented on it without ever having been told others thought that way, too.

To cut to the chase: Birds of a feather really do flock together. Certain numbers will form a "flock" and another number will join the flock.

It is the same with repeating numbers. None will happen for fifty spins (#5 with no more than three spins until the next #5) and then every third number is a repeater.

Keep sniffin' in that direction.

Sam

Clothdog · May 30, 2008, 05:34:46 PM

Bloom,
I'm sure I sent you my end digits. Because these are exact copies of my end digit How the end digit of one number brings on 3 different end digits which would be 12 numbers.
I've noticed this for along time. There are no coincidences. Watch this:
If any one of these hits 13-16-23-26 , play all 4. Or if you want to expand play all 12-13-16-21-23-26-32.
But you may only use 13-16-23-or 26 as the key number. The other add ins are NOT key numbers.
CD

bloomone2002 · May 30, 2008, 06:01:48 PM

QuoteBloom,
I'm sure I sent you my end digits. Because these are exact copies of my end digit How the end digit of one number brings on 3 different end digits which would be 12 numbers.
I've noticed this for along time. There are no coincidences. Watch this:
If any one of these hits 13-16-23-26 , play all 4. Or if you want to expand play all 12-13-16-21-23-26-32.
But you may only use 13-16-23-or 26 as the key number. The other add ins are NOT key numbers.
CD

Thanks for the response CD, however, i never got an exact copy of the end digits copies, could you send or resend to me. I did find the key numbers from and old thread, but you said this is different and i do recall reading somewhere where you spoke about an end digit twist that you would post when you had time.

Also, kinda spread throughout the various threads and post. i believe you mention that the last digit 0s could bring a zero and the 21 or 12 can bring its reverse. But im also seening the 5s and 9s characters, which i havent seen a breakdown of all these last digits anywhere to make a good assessment

bloomone2002 · May 30, 2008, 06:01:48 PM

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